GUILTY GA - Natalie Henderson, 17, & Carter Davis, 17, murdered, 1 Aug 2016 #1

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  1. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    So true Honesty. Once someone is an adult, you have nothing to say about anything as a parent. Things have to change, but there are all of those issues out there people talk about in terms of rights. Something must be done!
     


  2. LeighB

    LeighB Member

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    I couldn't agree more, honesty. I've seen my own friend go through so much of the same. Her son isn't yet 18, but she is very fearful for what will happen when he is.

    My own guess why LE and/or MSM isn't releasing the documents: to protect the victims. There may be information showing that they were behind Publix for perhaps not the most perfectly pure of reasons (as all of us who were ever teenagers understand well), and there's no sense casting aspersions on two young people who are 100% dead. If that's their motivation, I support not linking to or putting up pics of the documents.
     
  3. JB225

    JB225 Verified Paralegal

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    It's so sad. I was just there at the spot. My heart just stopped..... It's near the entrance of the back where it happened and near the high school entrance. Not far behind the shopping center. Almost near the Main Street. There's also a little clearing where it looks like kids might go to hang out or something like that. It's really not too odd of a place to meet up if you're a teen looking to not get caught in the middle of the night or going to meet after school. They probably met there often and other teens probably meet there - it looks like it might be a "regular meeting spot" if that makes sense....

    It's so close to the high school that there is a sign stating "no parking for Roswell High...." I don't think this was a random place to meet. I think it's probably common.
     
  4. persimmon

    persimmon New Member

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    If that is the case here with JH, he won't be getting any mental health treatment. Even the most proactive prisoners are lucky to get regularly prescribed medication. While in jail, he'll get nothing. The US does little to shrink it's huge recidivism rates and offers no real avenue for rehabilitation and therapy. For a first world nation, our prison system is very third world.
     
  5. alsleuther

    alsleuther Well-Known Member

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    Yes, at this point, I think this makes the most sense. LE probably had text communication b/t the teenagers and knew from the beginning they did not go there with intentions of meeting up with JH. And then the video surveillance at Publix would likely confirm that......why the police said Hazelwood followed them behind the Publix. Noone but JH will every actually know what happened behind the building....

    So sad for all the families involved.
     
  6. georgiagirl

    georgiagirl Opinionated Southern Belle

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    Does anyone know the curfew age for Fulton County? In Cherokee after age 17 there's no curfew.


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  7. cvaldez1975

    cvaldez1975 Well-Known Member

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    Its ok I was just clarifying.

    Idk about GA but in CA one does not "get off" on insanity. They are sent to the state hospital (which is just like prison) and medicated until they are able to assist in their defense and then returned to their county of offense. Sometimes they then refuse their meds and become incompetent again. They are carted off back to the state hospital and rinse and repeat ad nauseum.

     
  8. JB225

    JB225 Verified Paralegal

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    Fulton is also 17 or under.
     
  9. cvaldez1975

    cvaldez1975 Well-Known Member

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    I worked in two jails and inmates surely did get their meds. Took a few days but if they gave their doctor's info t was verified and they were treated.

     
  10. Dockins

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    I also worked PRN at jails in FL, and everyone gets their prescribed meds, mostly because the jails fear lawsuits, IMO.
     
  11. PastTense

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    Where did the killer get the gun and when did he acquire it?
     
  12. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    ((((honesty)))) I had a friend with schizophrenia when I was out of high school. We adored his family and our amazing group of co-workers encouraged and helped our friend. We would often explain to the Boston police, when they were called, just what was wrong and try to calm our friend and have him go for treatment when he stopped his meds. It's a very hard situation for family and friends. Wishing you and your family the best. One of our group became a psychiatrist and has done a lot of work with schizophrenia. (Sorry for the OT).
     
  13. jagdpanther3

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    I work as a CO and inmates get medication daily as well as see a Dr or nurse anytime they put in a request too.

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  14. persimmon

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    I know in prisons inmates receive their prescribed meds, but before sentencing while in jail many go without mostly due to beauracracy. Somebody else said inmates see a doctor any time they request to and if that's true at that facility that is unusual. Eventually they may see somebody but it's not timely. They don't have access to one on one therapy and I think many would benefit from that.

    I'm not attacking anybody like yourself who works in that system, you don't make the rules. As with any profession there are good and bad employees. Also, I couldn't work in a prison or jail so I'm thankful you can. There are a lot of mean nasty prisoners that would try anybody's patience....like I said I couldn't do it.

    That said, our prisons' dysfunction is systemic and well documented. The US has a major problem with locking people up. We also incarcerate more youths than any other country. Those youths usually remain in the criminal justice system for life. I don't know the answers but I know that running prisons for profit is a bad idea and I believe we need to recognize our system is fundamentally flawed. Crime rates alone demonstrate this.
     
  15. cvaldez1975

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    I agree w you the system isn't perfect, but both facilities I worked in were county jails, not prisons. One county economically disadvantaged, one flush w funding. They both got their meds within a few days.

    I also worked in a prison, the inmates there complained sick call took long (up to a week) but I'm unsure because I didn't work on the custody side, I worked on the facilities side so I did work w inmates but not w the medical staff and stuff like that.

     
  16. saulgoodman51

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    I agree. If someone breaks the law we shouldn't lock them up to protect law abiding citizens or to teach them a lesson. As far as locking up youth, lets just let them do what they want with no consequences. That should systematically work.

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  17. alexwood

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    Well, I guess it would be helpful to know how, exactly, "XBG" translates to: "Offender is the Ex-Boyfriend of Henderson." I would think that it's an acronym, and that each letter represents a word: "XBG" = EX-Boyfriend of the Girl?

    Oh heck, I'm sure that's not it! I've got the letters transposed. It should be "XGB." But I haven't seen the police report. Maybe that would explain it. (So, instead of typing this, I should be trying to find out myself.)

    But I've gotten lazy, relying on my fellow Sleuthers who are just too fast and too good!
    (I'm changing my Websleuths Name to: "Slothful Sleuth.")
     
  18. SeesSeas

    SeesSeas FLORIDIAN

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    XBG means ex-boyfriend/girlfriend, according to this explanation:
    http://www.kptv.com/story/32587309/...-roswell-publix-killers-sought?autostart=true
    The police report put together by the first responding officer indicates Natalie Henderson's relationship to the offender as XBG, which means ex-boyfriend/girlfriend. Carter's relationship to offender is listed as UN, or unknown. Frommer clarified that XBG is an option in the reporting system for officers to indicate what the possible relationship is. He said based on what officers saw at the scene, it appeared to be a relationship-involved situation but added that information can change as police gather more evidence and details.
     
  19. alexwood

    alexwood Well-Known Member

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    But didn't your parents know that you'd be out into the wee hours of the morning, and why you would be out so late? When the parents of the victims were contacted by LE, they stated they thought these kids were at home, asleep in their own beds!
     
  20. alexwood

    alexwood Well-Known Member

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    Well, S.S. Floridian, you have certainly clued me in! Thank you very much, I do appreciate your efforts. It would have taken me hours to find this information myself. Thanks again!
    Yours truly, "Slothful Sleuth"
     
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