GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #5

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  1. MissJ

    MissJ New Member

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    There would have been at the very least a horribly stinky diaper (if not decomp) when he opened the door the last time. Evacuation of the bowel is frequent upon death.
     


  2. Spice

    Spice Active Member

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    A medical expert has stated that Cooper would have been dead with an hour in those temperatures.

    He was definitely dead by noon. He had been in there since 9:30 A.M.

    I agree with you and believe RH was checking to see if Cooper had died yet.
     
  3. azmama

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    So far behind on this case, marking.
     
  4. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    Get an after market auto start.
    I think it was $149. And that was installed!




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  5. Melanie

    Melanie Inactive

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    Even if he lost his sense of hearing, he didn't lose his sense of smell. Didn't the first responders say the car stunk to high heaven. Sorry that I don't have a link to that quote.

    MOO

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    Morag Well-Known Member

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    The Cobb County Medical Examiner is requesting more information from investigators, and police said they traced the father's steps back to his workplace.

    BBM
    Interesting...did they specifically think he threw something out? Or did they think he stopped elsewhere first?
     
  7. JeannaT

    JeannaT Former Member

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    I think few people on a jury identify with the "motive" in a murder case, but they DO seem to want to hear one. Although motive usually isn't required, it DOES make it into the trial presentation if they can find one, and if not, the defense is quick to point out there's no motive.

    There doesn't appear to be a motive here, IMHO, or at least not one that's been brought out yet. And I'm willing to take ANYTHING as a motive, reasonable or not.
     
  8. Spice

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    You know you guys...something just crossed my mind. Please let me know what you think.

    RH specifically searched how long it would take a child to die in a car that had reached certain temperatures. He knew it would have been fast. The medical expert said within an hour.

    Part of me wonders if RH had not banked on a stranger or passerby calling 911 or breaking the window trying to save Cooper...this way it could REALLY look like he forgot. Then the emotional scene that occurred at the restaurant would have occurred in the early hours of his work day in the parking lot. He thought it would have happened faster making it look like he forgot him innocently and he gets to have his "audience" that he sought out later.

    This never happened, so he went to the car to check himself.

    He then spends the rest of the afternoon trying to figure out how he is going to "discover" him. So he pulls into the parking lot screaming and crying that his dead child is "choking" not banking on the rigormortis having already set in? This is why he inexplicably drives in a reeking car with a dead child. Attention and sympathy and a chance to act insane with grief in front of LE and strangers? As he wanted to do in the work parking lot but just much earlier in the day.

    The my son is "choking" comment when he was clearly dead may have been his panicked way of backtracking on his original "forgot him in car plan, stranger finds him fast" plan that never worked.

    Forgetting him for an hour or two and having a stranger discover him is MUCH different than forgetting him for 7 hours and then driving around with him in a stinking car trying to figure out what to do.


    So now a dead Cooper is "choking". Please help me. See how upset I am....

    Just a thought.
     
  9. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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  10. keeponsearching

    keeponsearching Wine Drinker

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    Argh this is so frustrating. I tried to see what Leanna said at the funeral and then what Ross said to but it is in pieces. What I did see was not the normal thing I would of read.

    No way did he not see his son in that car seat, at the time he came back. I drive a jeep Cherokee and I think it is larger, and I am short, Ross looks tall. There is no way at all that he didn't see Cooper in that car seat. Especially if it was in the middle.

    I would not be able to forgive my husband, and he wouldn't be able to forgive himself either. That right there is a turn our lives upside down moment. Not after having a baby. It wouldn't be about us, it would be about the baby. Not about the supporters.

    All if this seems so fishy.
     
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    keeponsearching Wine Drinker

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    Today before I left and got back in my vehicle i started it, car starter. To get the a/c moving. I wonder if the car he drives has that option.
     
  12. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    Those recent searches aka research... Is enough for me.

    It's like, if you punched me in the face....how important is the motive?
    The end result is still the same. You committed assault.

    ( wasn't making it personal used you and me only as pronouns)


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  13. tlcya

    tlcya Old and Tired Websleuth

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    Possible Motives:

    Didn't want to be married with a family anymore.
    Did not want the responsibilities anymore
    Financial Struggles
    An affair.
    Did not want to be a parent anymore.

    We just do not know yet. I wouldn't say there doesn't appear to be a motive in this case. I'm sure there is....we just aren't able to see it with what has been released yet.

    How many people kill their spouses in lieu of divorce because they do not want to be married anymore for whatever reasons.

    Everyone said Casey Anthony was a doting mother that loved Caylee according to their observations of her interactions with her. CA did not want the responsibilities of being tied down as a parent anymore.

    Scott Peterson wanted his freedom and another woman. Susan Smith, wanted her freedom and another man.

    The motive will reveal itself. It almost always does.
     
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    Exactly.
    People need to remember that nobody on the scene was fooled. Not the witnesses and not the police. They all immediately knew the father was not being truthful.
     
  16. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    Abraham was the one prepared to sacrifice but God intervened and said it wasn't necessary. Job was beset with horrible challenges and loss of his family but after trials were over his family expanded.

    Bible Scholars: please forgive my concise oversimplification from my pea sized brain
     
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    His height would have actually interfered with his ability to see his child while standing close enough to his car to place something on the driver's seat. A small child would have a better vantage than someone towering over the car.
     
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    This is the best thing that's been posted on any of these threads.
     
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    with all due respect, neither a burp nor a fart resembles choking.

    JMO
     
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