GA - Suspicion over heat death of Cooper, 22 mo., Cobb County, June 2014, #7

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  1. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Please continue here.

    Thanks,

    Salem
     
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  3. belimom

    belimom Our lives begin to end the day we become silent ab

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    Georgia toddler's death -- first blamed on heat -- is ongoing probe, police say

    (CNN)
    -- It was a tragedy from the outset: a toddler found dead apparently after being left alone for hours in a hot car, a distraught father blaming himself and facing serious criminal charges.

    Now, Cobb County, Georgia, police imply there is more -- much more -- to the story.

    "Much has changed about the circumstances leading up to the death of this 22-month-old since it was first reported," Cobb County Police Sgt. Dana Pierce told CNN. He would not elaborate, citing an ongoing investigation, but his words made it clear this was not just another case of a young life left and lost to heat exposure in a hot car.

    "I've been in law enforcement for 34 years. What I know about this case shocks my conscience as a police officer, a father and a grandfather," said Pierce.

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    More at http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/21/us/toddler-car-death-probe/?sr=google_news
     
  4. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Good Morning Everyone. Seems you all had a busy night, early morning.

    Please read the following:

    "POWER POSTING" where one responds over and over to every post with little time in between and always to drive a single point home is a violation of etiquette, as is stating unknowns as knowns, or stating them as fact. If you state a fact, you need a link. Power Posting is very disruptive on the thread and it's not allowed.

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    Salem Former Member

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    Mom is considered a victim here unless you have a link from LE/MSM saying otherwise. She can be discussed in the context of what she has said in the media and in the warrants.

    Please post accordingly.

    Salem
     
  7. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    If he's released on bail, then he will have no excuse to be off work. --
     
  8. liltexans

    liltexans Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Yes, if he bails out, he should be able to return to his job. In theory, at least.
     
  9. Lovejac

    Lovejac These boys are my heartstrings!

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    How does that work, I wonder. He was put on administrative leave (unpaid I believe)

    What are the conditions for his return?
     
  10. quesarita

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    Exactly - the wives may say that AFTER the divorce. Prior to, they can be completely taken in and in denial for years, partly because there is a sense of shame that reinforces the denial every time you start to realize what your spouse may truly be like. IME
     
  11. lillybell

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    That would be interesting wouldn't it, surely a grieving father who made the worst mistake of his life the last time he was working there, would never be able to step foot there again! I certainly couldn't. X
     
  12. Bodhi

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    SuperTMO, you and your mother should be so proud of what you did for that baby! The outcome could have easily been very different.

    These kind of incidents make me heartsick as well. Typically these incidents are truly horrible accidents--a loving, devoted parent who is distracted or whose routine has changed "spaces out" about the baby in the back. Those parents are devastated. My heart breaks for the child and for the parent; I count my lucky stars that I am not in their place.

    In your case and a minority of others, the caregiver leaves the child in the carseat through ignorance, indifference, or intent. And then I'm incensed! Sadly, I think Cooper's death falls into this category.

    Keep in mind what you and the first responders did for the child you posted about. You all saved her life and you also improved her chances at a happy life. In the best case scenario, the baby's parent was unaware and learned to make sure the baby was in the care of a responsible adult at all times. The rescue put the baby on child protective service's radar, so others outside her immediate circle were checking on her safety and well-being too.
     
  13. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    there could be some issues with his being charged for sure depending on his company's policy.

    I understand (I could be so wrong) that some employers would take a dim view of an employee even being charged with an offence like this.
     
  14. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    I haven't seen it stated but I would bet it is until after the case comes to end one way or the other.
     
  15. MyBelle

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    I doubt they let him come back or want him back. Ever.

    JMO
     
  16. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    Your comment is generous.

    I do not think that it could be a very productive environment with his return -- it would be an uneasy feeling for everyone at best ((MOO)))
     
  17. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    You would think so. One mother interviewed in the WaPo article that forgot her child and it died in the car... she drives the exact same car still and when she took the reporter to the place where she use to work when it happened..she parked in the exact same spot. She made a few statements that were outrageous imo. iirc “I don’t feel I need to forgive myself,” she says plainly, “because what I did was not intentional.”
    Oh, she said why shouldn't I keep driving my vehicle it is a perfectly good vehicle. Something like that.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...e0fe3a-f580-11e3-a3a5-42be35962a52_story.html
     
  18. Judicious1

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    Had Home Depot put out a statement regarding this situation?
     
  19. chlban

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    Depends. My company policy is if you are charged with a felony you are on unpaid leave. I know this because a former manager here was indicted and later plead guilty to wire fraud. He was put on unpaid leave when charged.
     
  20. newone

    newone 2nd mouse gets the cheese

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    seems like it would be a nightmare for him and his wife if he does get bail
     
  21. SStarr33

    SStarr33 Inactive

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    Does anyone know many kids have been saved by putting them in the back seat vs those that have died due to forgetting them? A quick search found nothing on the first two pages.
     
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