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Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. BJsleuth

    BJsleuth New Member

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    I have tracksuit pants too big for me. They stretched rather than me buying them too big or losing weight. They have a drawstring but I'm forever hitching them up and that's just walking around the house, I'd never wear them walking outside because they'd drive me mad pulling them up often. The drawstring works loose.
     


  2. STELLA85

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  3. Walk A Mile

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    Could the tracksuit pants have been taken in? Money was tight. Could they have been hand-me-downs, or from prior to her weight loss? Not maternity pants, but maybe immediately post maternity?
     
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    Thanks Stella... Bummer!!
     
  5. they'll get you

    they'll get you On Time Out

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    Baden-Clay jurors to visit creek (00:22)

    http://media.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/selections/badenclay-jurors-to-visit-creek-5535248.html
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    The bridge area will be cordoned off while the scene is viewed by the judge, jury and lawyers from both sides.

    The jury will then be escorted to Brookfield, where Allison was reported missing from her family home.

    Justice Michael Byrne has told the jury the tour is not evidence, but will help them understand and interpret evidence.

    Baden-Clay will not be attending.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-...ry-see-site-where-allisons-body-found/5542460
     
  6. BJsleuth

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    So which direction does the water flow at Kholo Ck relative to the position Allison was found?
     
  7. Oddsocks

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    I wonder if reporters are allowed today
     
  8. STELLA85

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    The creek flows south into the Brisbane river and her body was found under the bridge facing Ipswich it was under the first left hand pylon toward the middle. I hope this makes sense.
     
  9. DrWatson

    DrWatson Verified Thoracic and Vascular Surgeon

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    It's tidal - so it flows in both directions normally. Incoming tide - it flows upstream. Outgoing tide - downstream.

    However, if rain -> runoff, then it flows into the Brisbane River no matter what the tide is doing.

    Allison was found with her feet pointing upstream under the bridge, and her head facing the mouth of the creek into the Brisbane River.

    Whether or not the perpetrator intended, or hoped, the body would get washed into the main Brisbane River is a point that has been discussed amid much conjecture many times over the last couple of years. If she HAD been washed into the river (it's only a few metres from where she was found to the main flow of the big river), then she would have been washed downstream in the river, and could feasibly have ended up anywhere including out in Moreton Bay.
     
  10. BJsleuth

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    Thanks Stella and Doc. So it's possible the jacket could have been moved up around Allison's head by the water?
     
  11. DrWatson

    DrWatson Verified Thoracic and Vascular Surgeon

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    I doubt it BJ - the hydrologist report said that the water never got up to the point where the body was fully submerged.

    The high tide level just got to the body, and partially submerged the lower parts that were in the mud. The rest of the body stayed high and dry.

    The hydrologist was of the opinion that the body was not moved at all by the water - it was placed where it was found.

    The weekend of very heavy rain that occurred and caused flooding in some areas actually coincided with LOW tide - so Kholo Creek's LOW tide level was much higher than normal - but only on the low tide. And it didn't reach the NORMAL high tide level, according to the hydrologist. The flooding was already subsiding by the time the tide was rising.

    So we have flooding versus the tide, and at no point in that episode did the water come up and submerge the body or move it - according to the hydrologist.
     
  12. Groundedgirl

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    Yes media will be on site and tweeting today
     
  13. McCoy

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    No it was quite dry, just suddenly rained very heavily on the WE of the 28th
     
  14. McCoy

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    I think we talked about this ages ago and someone said that particular brand has very small sizes and even though they were a 12 they had XXL in those clothes?
     
  15. Humdinger

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    I'd love to know more about the pants. The bigger top I actually find normal because I always wear bigger in exercise or lounging clothing. Pants though, they drive me crazy if ill fitting! Just yesterday I was wearing size 14 track pants whilst working in the garden and they had no drawstring so I had the top folded down to keep them up - they were one size too big. They looked so baggy and horrible and I'd never be seen out and about in them.

    Mind you, and as illustrated by our comments, we're all so different! For me I'm a tight bottoms and loose tops for exercise, others are loose bottoms tight tops or tight both IYKWIM. And for me, even in the middle of winter it's black 3/4 pants and singlet top with a jumper if needed.DH wouldn't know that though...

    Another thing, if I had just got my hair done I'd be feeling great and would wear my best exercise gear... I'd not dream of wearing my daggies.
     
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    Me too! And the lorna jane (only one pair I own!) outfit is for public exercise :) nothing better than slipping into the oversized stuff at the end of the day and letting it all out lol. I don't believe Allison ever had any intention of walking anywhere in that outfit. I would be surprised if she was dressed by the perpetrator but that is only my gut feeling about it.
     
  17. BJsleuth

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    Thanks again Doc. They've dotted that I and crossed the t!
     
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    Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou ยท 9m
    Defence barrister Michael Byrne QC greets prosecutor Todd Fuller at the Kholo Creek bridge. #badenclay
     
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    Defence solicitor Peter Shields and Michael Byrne QC have a look at the bridge. #badenclay pic.twitter.com/NyLhakArsH
     
  20. Amee

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    yes we did talk about this way way back, someone also posted clothing size charts and how there was a difference in brands and sizing.

    :banghead:
     
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