GBC Trial General Discussion Thread #4

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Happygolucky

    Happygolucky New Member

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    I don't think the girls would have had time to be coached on the afternoon of Alison's disappearance. They went straight to school with Aunty Olivia. From my understanding the night "debriefing" sessions occurred later
     


  2. they'll get you

    they'll get you CHRIS. P. BACON

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    The car was only 8 weeks old so the new carpet fibres and the leaves would have been in the barrel and filters. I'm fairly sure new carpets shed more fibres.
     
  3. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    Yes, NBC would have. OBW doesnt live in Brisbane, she came down from Townsville, cant recall when. As far as going to Anstead is concerned, I wouldnt be at all surprised if GBC took varying routes there and back to avoid attracting attention. He would have had a heightened fear of being noticed or detected so may have thought he'd be more likely to be noticed if he went the same route there and back.
     
  4. kiwijayne

    kiwijayne Well-Known Member

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    The thing is did they actually see her leave the house or where they asleep when she went and GBC told them that. They could also be referring to the treadmill.
     
  5. BatWoman

    BatWoman Member

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    Thanks Amee, i thought i was going mental. That was before i saw that the search function would take a while to go through the database. Plus I have brain fog from surgery yesterdday.
     
  6. Happygolucky

    Happygolucky New Member

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    I may have missed something (although I have been reading the summaries each day) but I don't believe this witness was called as a witness. If they were not there must be a reason and we can't count this as evidence.
     
  7. kiwijayne

    kiwijayne Well-Known Member

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    She probably coached them for all we know.
     
  8. Happygolucky

    Happygolucky New Member

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    Again, it is my understanding police confiscated NBCs vacuum cleaner. I am sure it would have been extensively tested. However no evidence produced that the the car was vacuumed.
     
  9. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    They could have been coached that morning as GBC spoke to them about their missing Mum. Reinforcing about Mum going for regular walks. If she supposedly walked in the early morning before they got up, how would they know she really did walk? Maybe she did go for walks, but I do feel the girls could have said things they had heard said - as they are young children they dont always make the distinction between what they experienced or saw, and what they believed to be true because they were told.

    Personally I think that Allison hated exercise and regular walks, and possibly tried to do it to lose weight, but was probably not very frequent or consistent. Any excuse not to is what I would have thought, and if you had just had your hair done the night before, and had a conference the next day, you wouldnt go for that walk.
     
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    Wonder if they had been briefed, debriefed, or ordered in what to say?
    There was plenty of opportunity for that to occur.
     
  11. BatWoman

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    The prosecution will know the PJ pants are missing. They gave Gerred a chance to explain but he just kind of deflected. Although he's probably certain he gave a great answer, i'm pretty sure in the closing argument this will be one of the big points stressed to the jury and it will be clear that they were nowhere to be found,which is a massive blue and white chequered flag.
     
  12. Amee

    Amee Active Member

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  13. Happygolucky

    Happygolucky New Member

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    If Toni was weary of waiting she only had to pick up her phone, ring Alison and spill the beans. A conference with hundreds of people present would not necessarily be the best forum
     
  14. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    I agree, I do feel that there was something significant - as you say they had I think two closures for a period of time, which is unusual unless it is really important. Unfortunately they couldnt get enough corroboration or additional information to use, so nothing has been mentioned in court. But that doesnt mean nothing happened there that was significant!
     
  15. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

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    I believe they confiscated the dustbag of the vacuum cleaner or contents therof. Good point, nothing has been mentioned.
     
  16. Happygolucky

    Happygolucky New Member

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    This interview was the afternoon of Alison's disappearance. It seems to confirm Alison went for walks and took her phone with her
     
  17. BJsleuth

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    The girls weren't interviewed until June though IIRC.
     
  18. sosocurious

    sosocurious Well-Known Member

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    IMO
    Fuller showed the bedroom photo's and asked GBC about the pj's.

    Is Fuller implying Allison had them on when she was murdered and was changed into her walking gear by someone else. In which case the Pj's should be in the house and GBC being so up on his wife's wardrobe would know where they were. He deflected that question saying "they are not in the photo." and offered no alternative to the jury of which I am aware.

    Even if they were in the house had been washed and folded GBC said when asked by Fuller no he had not cleaned.

    GBC objected when Fuller suggested that the jumper was pulled over Allison's head when she was fighting him off.........................
    Then he asked the direct question "Or did that happen LATER as you moved her body?

    The pj's have nothing to do with money, Toni, stranger or suicide
    They IMO have either
    * vanished
    * were not worn at all
    * or had been washed as part of the clean up
    It seems to me the pj's are important where ever they are.
     
  19. kiwijayne

    kiwijayne Well-Known Member

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    Seems it was the day Allison was missing they where interviewed http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-trial-mummy-wasnt-there-20140611-zs4hz.html

    The Baden-Clays’ eldest daughter recalled waking that morning to find her father in the kitchen, making their school lunches.

    “I said, ‘Where’s Mum?’,” the girl told police.

    “He said, ‘I think she’s gone for a walk’.”

    The court heard it was not unusual for Mrs Baden-Clay to walk for half an hour each morning. She typically walked near Brookfield State School.
     
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    Amee Active Member

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