George Floyd death / Derek Chauvin trial - Sidebar week 3

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  1. Katerz

    Katerz Verified Insider/Robert Wiggins

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    I didn’t see him holding his head in his hands, I saw him pushing the ear piece of his headset closer so he could hear better.
     
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  2. Katerz

    Katerz Verified Insider/Robert Wiggins

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    When he had one of the pages folded over today I saw actual writing. Possibly a book? Possibly detailed notes so if he somehow wins an ineffective counsel decision he knows what to give his new lawyer? So many options.
     
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    Definitely not!!
     
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    Ah okay thanks. I thought maybe a different channel had shown this but couldn't find anything. cheers!
     
  5. Tom_Servo

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    Heres another tidbit. Our segment is in a specific sport realm and our off topic/political board is pretty right leaning. We're different in that it's loosely moderated but not a free for all. If it doesn't involve minors, personal threats or copyright we let it go.

    When the original video was released the overwhelming opinion was against Chauvin. After the full video was released (couple months ago?) the opinion changed a little. It went from "throw him under the jail" to "maybe this is not as bad as we thought".

    One of the reasons I've lurked here is the community. This is a much more informed group even though we're larger. I've got a bunch of uniformed sports fans vs a group of well informed and heavily invested users. Not saying their opinion isn't important but relevance is lost when you express uninformed opinions.
     
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    ilovewings Well-Known Member

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    I so agree!!!!
     
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    wasnt_me Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they can, but I think it would be more prevailant when everyone knows certain people are jurors by profession.
     
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    Did anybody catch why court tv think we are going back into court shortly? They mentioned something about whatever was happening today being discussed at court rather than in chambers, but as I’m not sure what happens at this point in the trial in the USA I’m clueless
    ETA just seen charge conference (don’t know what that means either) @ 4.00
     
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    charge conference is to discuss the charge about to be given to the jury and any concerns or objections the attorneys want doled out as well
     
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    Thank-You. :)
     
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    Judge Cahill is going back on the record at 3pm
     
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    My problem with it is that there won't be huge pool of people to be jurors as there is now. With thousands upon thousands of cases going on yearly, that's a lot of people who need to want to work as a professional juror. These people might become known and therefore more accessible to bribes or the limelight with the media.

    If we started having professional jurors, then people would demand a standard. That's gonna mean going to school and getting degrees or certifications. That means jurors will be trained to think alike about the evidence for the most part. That is no longer a jury of your peers.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Regardless of how you feel about Chauvin my opinion of his lawyer is overwhelmingly good. I've almost felt hatred for many defense attorneys in previous cases but Nelson has done nothing to bring those feelings back in me. Win, lose or draw he makes a good impression.
     
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    I agree, he mostly has appeared as an easy going type, and the little touches like holding doors open for witnesses, touching DC on the arm when introducing him to jurors etc. He has my respect and I hope he is safe
     
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    A big fat NO.
     
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    dang, how dare I go away from the computer LOL
     
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    I'm glad the jury is not hearing this. Sundeep lyer sounds like the least jury friendly lawyer I've heard. It's not surprising he's been kept in the back room in an advisory capacity. I'm suspecting most of his recommendations will not be included in the jury instructions.
     
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    Back on the record to discuss juror instructions.

    They’re currently discussing the use of force instructions. Nelson says it would “...specifically to include the totality of circumstances tests as well as the without regard to his own state of mind intention or motivation language.”

    https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382787452901941248?s=21

    Nelson says there was a “substantial amount of instruction” on the 3rd degree murder charge. He asks it be consistent with a recent ruling and statutory language.

    On the 2nd degree murder charge instructions, Nelson says "Again, it is the defendants position that the standard jury instruction should be applied as the court had included & that modifications were not necessarily relevant to intent to cause the assault…”

    Judge Cahill says his instructions list what the jury should not consider…including "sympathy, prejudice, bias, public opinion, and they should also not consider the consequences or possible penalties that might attach to their decision.”

    https://twitter.com/anavilastra/status/1382788951652630531?s=21
     
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