George Zimmerman Real Time Trial Thread *No Discussion* 7/5/2013

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  1. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator

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    Dear Webseuths Members,

    We know many of you want to discuss the facts of the case and as long as the discussion is civil you may discuss the case in general in this link below:

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213157"]George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]


    This thread is for REAL TIME COURTROOM updates.

    If those of you watching could please update this thread as much as possible it will be greatly appreciated by those unable to watch the trial while at work.

    Thank you for your patience and understanding.

    Tricia
     
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  3. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    It will be interesting to see what kind of questions are asked of this witness. MOM seems to be arguing something passionately with the judge at sidebar.
     
  4. TexMex

    TexMex Punishment is justice for the unjust.

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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 34m
    Prosecutors wrapping up case in #Zimmerman trial (from @AP) #trayvonmartin http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Ze793PLr …

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 20h
    State winding down in George #Zimmerman trial http://news.yahoo.com/state-winding-down-george-zimmerman-trial-083159243.html … #trayvonmartin

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3 Jul
    Expert: No Martin DNA on gun grip (from @AP) #trayvonmartin #zimmerman http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=uMahkian …

    Sybrina Fulton is already on the stand but having to wait for a sidebar.

    Bill S. says OM is passionately arguing something.
     
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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
    Fulton expected to testify it was #trayvonmartin screaming on 911 call before fatal gunshot is heard. #zimmerman says it was him.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 8m
    This is a little of a surprise. Putting her up before medical examiner likely to be called. #zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 9m
    Attys in sidebar before prosecutor begins.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 9m
    State calls #trayvonmartin mother Sybrina Fulton to the stand. #zimmerman

    Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 12m
    Judge Nelson has had #GeorgeZimmerman agree that the body examined by the medical examiner is #TrayvonMartin. Zimmerman agreed.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 14m
    Court is back in session. Prosecutors say they will call the medical examiner to testify today. They are also expected to rest their case.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 15m
    We are back in session in court. #zimmerman
     
  7. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    Hearing that tape must be so hard for her. :(
     
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    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
    She said Martin is her younger son and he's in heaven. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    The state is about to question Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    Lawyers still at the bench as she sits in the witness stand. She's looking down and at the lawyers. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
    On the stand: #TrayvonMartin's mother @SybrinaFulton. WATCH her testimony live: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    Juror E 13 gave Fulton a long look then glanced in the family's direction in the gallery. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 8m
    Sybrina Fulton is glancing their way. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 8m
    The jury is avoiding eye contact with her.. Looking straight ahead or down. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 10m
    She has been sworn in and is on the stand. Lawyers are at the bench. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 11m
    Sybrina Fulton is taking the stand. She is wearing glasses, an "up hairdo" and black suit. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 17m
    The state has indicated it will call at least three witnesses including the medical examiner. #Zimmermanon9
     
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    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    The defense apologized to Fulton for her loss. The state objected. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    E6 and others look at her as she said without emotion that the person who was screaming was her son Trayvon. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    The jury is not looking at her as she listens to the 911 call. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    She says Martin was right handed. One tattoo of praying hands with pearls and another with her name. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    She said Martin is her younger son and he's in heaven. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 7m
    The state is about to question Martin's mother Sybrina Fulton. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 9m
    Lawyers still at the bench as she sits in the witness stand. She's looking down and at the lawyers. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 10m
    On the stand: #TrayvonMartin's mother @SybrinaFulton. WATCH her testimony live: http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF #Zimmermanon9
     
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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    Fulton says it was #trayvonmartin screaming. State is done subject to recalling her DLR says . O'Mara now up for cross.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 7m
    Fulton says she's heard #trayvonmartin cry and yell before. 911 call with screams playing.

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    She says Tracy Martin did not tell her he had already listened to the tape and said it was not Martin who was screaming. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    Fulton said several of her relatives, lawyers, and city leaders were there and all listened together. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    The defense asked her about listening to the 911 call in the mayor's office without law enforcement. #Zimmermanon9
     
  11. TexMex

    TexMex Punishment is justice for the unjust.

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    Javaris Fulton is next, TM brother
     
  12. Reader

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    OM trying to get Mrs. Fulton to say she hoped that Trayvon did not do anything to cause his own death. She says her hope was that this had never happened and that Trayvon was still alive.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 43s
    Jury looks as focused as its been at any time I've seen during trial for these exchanges.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    O'Mara is done. State is up for redirect exam.

    David Ovalle David Ovalle ‏@DavidOvalle305 5m
    Sybrina Fulton agrees that listening to the tape for the first time, with city officials, was a difficult thing to do.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower
     
  13. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    Javaris is a very soft spoken young man. He comes across well on the stand IMO.
     
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    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    He says they were close. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    Martin's brother Jahvaris is on the stand. He's the older brother. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    And said she did not understand the question. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    The defense asked her if she hoped that her son did nothing that led to his own death. She did not answer 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    O'Mara spoke to her in a very hushed tone. And Bernie de la Rionda is as well. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
    Fulton says no one told her that she was about to listen to a recording that could be very disturbing. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    @maxime_leblanc Yes, Fla. law allows immediate family of victims to remain in courtroom even if they're testifying.

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 7m
    She said she has no doubt it was her son screaming for help. She says she was the first to react in the group. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 8m
    She says Tracy Martin did not tell her he had already listened to the tape and said it was not Martin who was screaming. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 9m
    Fulton said several of her relatives, lawyers, and city leaders were there and all listened together. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 11m
    The defense asked her about listening to the 911 call in the mayor's office without law enforcement. #Zimmermanon9
     
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    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 31s
    Jahvaris Fulton says that he believes it was #trayvonmartin was screaming. Previously told TV reporter he wasn't sure if it was him.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Mother: Trayvon Martin cried for help on 911 call (from @AP) http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Ze793PLr …

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
    She is done testifying. #trayvonmartin brother Jahvaris Fulton now called by state.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
    Fulton tells O'Mara that she doesn't believe that #trayvonmartin caused his own death.
     
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    Bill S. ....the brother did not really testify to anything different than he told the reporter.

    Judge recesses for a break....until further notice...

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    Completely sure it was Martin's voice. The judge is trying to decide whether defense can challenge his testimony today. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
    He wasn't sure. Apparently the reporter played it for him during the interview. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
    He said he didn't want to believe it was Trayvon and was in shock and denial but he told the reporter two weeks later 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    The first time he heard it was at the mayor's office in the group with his family and the lawyers. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
    He says it was Martin's voice screaming but at first he wasn't so sure and told a reporter that. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
    He said he found out the next day that his brother was shot to death. He listened to 911 call 12-15 times. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
    He says they were close. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 7m
    Martin's brother Jahvaris is on the stand. He's the older brother. #Zimmermanon9
     
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    OM trying to impeach Jahvaris' ID of Trayvon's voice on the tape. Judge is reading the interview with reporter. She asks OM what is the purpose of wanting to play the tape if not for impeachment. If not for impeachment, the tape may not be played. Objection is sustained.

    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
    Judge says there isn't sufficient legal basis for Jahvaris Fulton TV interview to be played. #zimmerman

    Local 10 Zimmerman Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman 3m
    In a prior interview: "I'm not sure ... I haven't even listened to them that good," Trayvon Martin's brother Jahvaris Fulton said.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
    Judge sends jury out. O'Mara about to play Jahvaris Fulton TV interview now. Jury not present for this.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
    Jahvaris Fulton: " I guess I didn't want to believe it was him. That's why...I didn't say it was him."

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
    O'Mara still questioning him on cross exam.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
    Jahvaris Fulton says that he believes it was #trayvonmartin was screaming. Previously told TV reporter he wasn't sure if it was him.

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 7m
    Mother: Trayvon Martin cried for help on 911 call (from @AP) http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Ze793PLr …
     
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    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
    We're in a break while a locksmith unlocks the evidence locker in the courtroom!! #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    Challenge him because his answers about the interview did not change. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    The defense wants the jury to hear his interview as the "best evidence". The judge says at this point defense can't 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
    The jury is not back yet as they figure out whether Martin's brother wavered in his testimony today. #Zimmermanon9


    Bill S. says OM should not have crossed the mother and did himself no favors by trying to get her to impeach herself and say she was hoping to hear her son.

    Pros. did well to show TM was from a good family, educated mother, brother in college, both well spoken..

    Brought out TMs tattoos were of praying hands and mother's name, not so thuggish as believed.
     
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    Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
    I'm still in court room for recess. A locksmith has literally busted out a drill to get evidence locker open. #zimmerman


    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 8m
    Court is in recess now as officials work on unrelated issue to get evidence locker opened. #zimmerman

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 9m
    Judge says there isn't sufficient legal basis for Jahvaris Fulton TV interview to be played. #zimmerman


    Bill S.....OM apologizing to mother for loss of her son was awkward and should not have been said....he is still going to take his velvet glove and cross exam her and try to impeach what she said...OM could have asked these questions of the brother to get possible listener bias out.

    He also feels the pros. would have been more effective if they had waited and put the mother on last. (I'm thinking maybe she wanted to go first and get it over with). She is also subject to recall and he thinks she will be back on stand since evidence can't be presented due to lock problem, but she will ID some evidence for state later.
     
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    Jeffrey Evan Gold ‏@jeffgoldesq 15m
    Court says tape not impeachment. This does not mean it cannot be played in defense case for #Zimmerman.
    Retweeted by Kyle Hightower

    Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 8m
    Update: Evidence locker has now been opened. Crisis averted.
     
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    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
    The defense is trying to show that the family identification was tainted:without law enforcement and done in a group. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
    Sybrina Fulton was straightforward and dignified on the witness stand. There was no emotional performance as in other trials. #Zimmermanon9

    Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
    The defense is handling Martin's family delicately but still trying to challenge their identification of the screams. #Zimmermanon9

    Court still in recess....there are 2 locks on evidence locker, one having to be sawed off!
     
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