George Zimmerman /Trayvon Martin General Discussion #14 Friday July 12

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by Tricia, Jul 11, 2013.

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  1. Chester_from_THM

    Chester_from_THM Member

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    Amen, LG!

    This is probably what is so disturbing to me about this case. How LE did not even bother to treat him like a victim, and did not bother to investigate GZ's story adequately. There was so much apathy about this young man's death, it is heartbreaking.

    And even after death, TM is being accused of causing his own death because he could have run home.

    I guess it is also his fault that the ME's office f***ed up, and the investigators f***ed up and gave GZ a pass right from the start.

    Disgraceful, IMO.
     


  2. BiggNewt

    BiggNewt New Member

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    This is a disaster...No evidence...all emotion...all speculation. IMO
     
  3. cityslick

    cityslick New Member

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    That didn't start the fight with TM. Him getting out of his car and and walking in his neighborhood is not evidence that he started the fight.

    It is not against the law to get out of your car.
     
  4. EGirl

    EGirl #RockportStrong

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    No that's not how it works.

    The police investigate, send the case to the DA, to the Grand Jury (which didn't happen in this case) to determine if a crime had in fact been committed. The DA then has to prove that a crime was committed in a court of law.

    Many cases never make it that far because investigation ferrets out whether it was a case of self defense or not.
     
  5. 5bigfish5

    5bigfish5 New Member

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    It's all they have.

    "bleep-bleep punks" is BAD! But crazy-bleep cracker is A-OK.
     
  6. MeeBee

    MeeBee Active Member

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    Everyone's a lawyer! IMO
     
  7. katiewonders

    katiewonders Inactive

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    In the US, the defendant never has to take the stand in any case.
     
  8. Zoe Bogart

    Zoe Bogart Let's not ask for the Moon, we have the Stars

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    Let's not forget "child". I guess "child" garners more emoting than "young man".
     
  9. rose222

    rose222 Active Member

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    Following someone does not = starting a fight.

    It's not illegal to follow someone but it is illegal to punch someone.

    IMO.
     
  10. logicalgirl

    logicalgirl Peace Hawk

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    No - the difference is if your wisdom tooth is impacted. Then you will get bruising and black eyes.

    IMO
     
  11. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    This closing is much better. IMO
     
  12. gxm

    gxm Active Member

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    IMO, the state is making a mistake pushing the "child" meme. It's silly to refer to a person who was clearly a young man as a "child." Unless TM was developmentally challenged, it just makes the state look desperate. JMO. OMO. MOO.
     
  13. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    WHERE DO YOU LIVE? because here in AMERICA we are all presumed innocent of charges until they are proven.
     
  14. Mahouston69

    Mahouston69 Digital Imaging Specialist

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    And pretty to look at :)
     
  15. UdbCrzy2

    UdbCrzy2 New Member

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    It sort of reminds me of the South Park video It's Coming Right For Us IMO
    http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/149674/its-coming-right-for-us
     
  16. logicalgirl

    logicalgirl Peace Hawk

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    Apparently not according to posters here - you can even shoot them dead.

    IMO
     
  17. Footwarrior

    Footwarrior Well-Known Member

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    The 7/11 store clerk wasn't at all bothered by TM wearing a hoodie. And when GZ saw Trayvon, he was outside and it was raining.
     
  18. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I didn't.
     
  19. Chris_Texas

    Chris_Texas New Member

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    Fortunately no one is saying that. You left out quite a few very important details.

    Zimmerman, an armed adult, pursued an innocent teen because he thought walking home in the rain, at dinnertime, was suspicious. He pursued him to the clubhouse, he pursued him around the corner and down the street, he pursued him until the teen panicked and ran behind some buildings to escape the "creepy" guy following him. He then exited his vehicle, and against LE advice, pursued him further still.

    At some point they met, a tussle occurred, and the teen was gunned down. Zimmerman is claiming that he had no choice but to kill this kid, and he has offered several conflicting versions of events as justification. He has failed to offer a consistent version of what took place leading up to the physical conflict, and his version of what happened during the fight has changed as well -- and none of his versions match the physical evidence found at the scene.

    Trayvon Martin is dead. His killer, a man with a history of violence and lying under oath, has offered nothing but inconsistent excuses and stories in his defense. The right to defend yourself is not on trial, George Zimmerman is, and he damn well aught to be found guilty.

    IMO
     
  20. JeannaT

    JeannaT Former Member

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    Interesting. I don't think if I were Guy, I would want to close before a hungry and tired jury.

    Their call, I guess.

    It sounds to me like they're planning to deliver a verdict today.
    IMHO
     
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