George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion #3

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by Tricia, Jun 23, 2013.

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  1. iluvmua

    iluvmua Well-Known Member

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    everything Trayvon did WAS a crime.

    So just because he is scared it is not a crime if he punched someone in the nose, broke it and bashed someone's head into the concrete????
     
  2. greycoupon

    greycoupon Active Member

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    I feel very bad for this young lady. It's obvious she's pretty traumatized and hasn't dealt with what happened. I'm not very familiar with her background but it seems clear she hasn't gotten the support and help she needs.

    Did the Martin family attorney really release a recording of her interview to the media without her consent? I can't imagine why she might have any issue with authority at this point after all of that.

    Her "The First 48" logic sounded spot on for an 18 year old might approach this situation. I'm past 30 and can't imagine how I would handle testifying at a murder trial. Let alone how I would have handled it at 18/19 without any support.
     
  3. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    You would call it stalking. The definition by Florida law would not.
     
  4. kaRN

    kaRN Verified Health Professional - Registered Nurse

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    That's a big if but either way it was a death sentence for the minor he was stalking and dare I say if the DT story is true- provoking, wasn't it.
     
  5. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    Who???
     
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    Moonie New Member

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    Thanks! Thank you to everyone who welcomed me today! :tyou:


    I really like how everyone is respectful of each others opinions regardless of which side they may take. And very good points being made here. I'm very impressed with all of you thus far!
     
  7. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    He was not stalking Martin, per Florida law.
     
  8. kaRN

    kaRN Verified Health Professional - Registered Nurse

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    Sorry but you're wrong.
    http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/784.048
    784.048 Stalking; definitions; penalties.—
    (1) As used in this section, the term:
    (a) “Harass” means to engage in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in such person and serves no legitimate purpose.
    (b) “Course of conduct” means a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts over a period of time, however short, evidencing a continuity of purpose. Constitutionally protected activity is not included within the meaning of “course of conduct.” Such constitutionally protected activity includes picketing or other organized protests.
    (c) “Credible threat” means a threat made with the intent to cause the person who is the target of the threat to reasonably fear for his or her safety. The threat must be against the life of, or a threat to cause bodily injury to, a person.


    Lots more at link :rockon:
     
  9. claudicici

    claudicici Well-Known Member

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    ...based on a grown man watching and following a teenager of course that's super creepy and I would be scared for my life.
     
  10. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    George FOLLOWED him, even after he was told not to.
    If George reported to NEN a suspicious kid walking in the rain and stayed with his vehicle waiting for LE to arrive...all of this could have been avoided.
     
  11. Horace Finklestein

    Horace Finklestein New Member

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    That's anoter odd thing. They're on the phone for hours and sending hundreds of texts, then a strange potential rapist/cracker approaches him, phone goes dead and...she doesn't call back? At all? For days?
     
  12. polleypockets

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    you know in all my self defense classes i've taken - the first thing they tell you is if you are being followed that you should turn around and confront them and yell why are you following me, and most of the time that scares your possible assailant because they are not expecting it, and i know at least 1 time - it did work for me
     
  13. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    You know, the actress at a Canadian ski resort that had a pretty simple fall and felt and looked fine after... Refused to go to the hospital... Died a few hours later.

    What it "looks" like has no impact on severity.
     
  14. iluvmua

    iluvmua Well-Known Member

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    And she would not know because she was in Miami.

    JMO
     
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    Liam Neeson's wife...
     
  17. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    Let's introduce this litmus test:

    Would you have killed Zimmerman if he was following you, as he allegedly did Martin? Would you have shot him after he said "What are you doing around here?"
     
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    Zimmerman on the calls and when he has spoken in court seems to have a pretty mellow type of voice. I guess maybe he could've spoken differently to Trayvon, but every wittness that says they heard a boy and a man makes me wonder who had the deeper voice. I have known some young men who had deep voices.

    This case is sad and honestly I am undecided. The states case hasn't been to impressive imo. I do know more is coming and who knows what tomorrow will bring.I feel bad that a young man died and I don't think he deserved it, but if I were on the jury it would take a lot more to convict him of second degree. Maybe I will change my mind, but from everything I have seen I think manslaughter may even be difficult.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2
     
  19. polleypockets

    polleypockets New Member

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    i swear i am not being snarky but it sounds like you are saying because he stopped running and was walking home, because he didn't get there fast enuff b4 GZ could catch him, then its his faut cuz he didn;t run away fast enuff??
     
  20. claudicici

    claudicici Well-Known Member

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    well,you're saying it's not a crime to KILL someone if you have a (allegedly) broken nose and scratches on the back of your head.
     
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