George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin General discussion #5

Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by Tricia, Jun 23, 2013.

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  1. missmazzy

    missmazzy New Member

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    I meant if GZ had been the one killed. As far as I'm concerned, if someone is smashing my noggin on the ground, I'm not waiting until I or some news commentator thinks it's life threatening.
     


  2. William N

    William N Member

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    How much remorse do you think Martin would have shown if he had been arrested after killing Zimmerman by smashing his head into the sidewalk?
     
  3. mom23gr8kids

    mom23gr8kids New Member

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    I would argue his reactions would be due to shock. I would for sure be in shock if I was just in a fight and shot someone. People react differently under shock some become hysterical others become very withdrawn and flat in demeanor.
     
  4. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    But I asked a question you couldn't/wouldn't answer.

    So you were there then, you are a witness and he was calm?
     
  5. cityslick

    cityslick New Member

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    The other witnesses didn't see or hear half of what JG saw. But yet somehow they are more credible.
     
  6. raine1212

    raine1212 Former Member

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    I hate HLN commercials
     
  7. Boodles

    Boodles Well-Known Member

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    His testimony: Manalo saw no gun, until the officer asked if he had a gun, when GZ raised his arms and displayed the holstered gun.
     
  8. Truth Detector

    Truth Detector Your Humble Observer

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    Mr. Manolo, another Prosecution witness, just testified that GZ's claim that he had just been beaten up and shot the man to defend himself seemed true.

    The Defense doesn't need witnesses.

    The Prosecution's will do just fine.

    This should be a short trial and deliberation, that is if the judge doesn't dismiss the charges first, of course.
     
  9. Lovelymountains

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    No, because IMO GZ was a threat to TM. In that case, were TM being beaten (I don't believe GZ was) TM would be justified in grabbing the gun which would have been used to kill him. It was not TM's gun. The gun was introduced into the melee (If there even was one) by GZ.
     
  10. GetToTheTruthNow

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    Actually Mora said he was holding his head and confused.
     
  11. Morag

    Morag Well-Known Member

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    What a horrible experience, I'm so sorry. How severe were your injuries?
     
  12. popsicle

    popsicle faith hope love

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    He is a diabetic.
     
  13. Lovelymountains

    Lovelymountains New Member

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    Yes, he did see quite a lot in those ten seconds.
     
  14. missmazzy

    missmazzy New Member

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    That's because the facts are the facts. These witnesses have no reason to lie for GZ.
     
  15. SassyMom

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    It doesn't matter at all if WE don't think he would've been murdered, it only matters what he thought. Do you think he knew he would not have been murdered or suffered 'serious bodily harm'? I think the law doesn't require the person to think they were about to be murdered, but rather the fear of suffering severe bodily harm.
     
  16. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    Or just maybe, people should realize when there is a fight, things happen. It is sad and tragic but not murder.
     
  17. SuperTmo

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    I don't believe that George was thinking he was going to be killed. Given that several neighbors heard what was happening and were outside telling them to stop, calling 911, etc... the fight would have been broken up. George's injuries do not look anything close to him thinking he was going to be murdered. He didn't even feel the need to go to the hospital! Lethal force should be the last possible option, and at the time GZ pulled his weapon and shot Travyon, he wasn't out of choices. Neighbors had made it known that they knew what was happening and were getting help. He didn't need to kill Trayvon.
     
  18. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    For those with questions or qualms about his gun visibility and his holster, I took a couple of quick pictures to illustrate. I apologize in advance for the lack of color-coordination. I just grabbed my jacket really quick to take the picture. I also apologize for the pastiness of my stomach!

    In any case, this is what Zimmerman would have pretty much looked like when he was walking around:

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    And this is how Zimmerman would have had to have been "flashing it". I would feel silly walking around like this, but that may just be me. This is also the extent the clothing would have to be adjusted for the weapon to be visible and recognizable. It's not just a matter of "Maybe his jacket got pushed back".

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  19. Nezumi

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    And 'Miss Diamond' indicated that she was not offended by TM's use of the 'N' word. That opinion (and yours) doesn't mean that the use if those terms are not offensive and racially hostile and provocative.
     
  20. Arishia

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    What's with this "shock" stuff? Shock is a medical term, that isn't about being upset.
     
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