George Zimmerman /Trayvon Martin General Discussion #7

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And the defense is sweeping those crumbs in the trash. imo
 
What kills me is that Pros could have redirected, yes???

Questioned him again and cleared it up or EVEN objected yesterday!

OMO
 
Sounds like the judge is going to strike the evidence regarding Zimmermans "telling the truth". ThE prosecution has been out lawyered this entire trial and they know it.
 
What kills me is that Pros could have redirected, yes???

Questioned him again and cleared it up or EVEN objected yesterday!

OMO

I think the pros will redirect this morning. I don't think the defense was done.


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You can not unring that bell. It is obvious this DET believed GZ story and felt he was truthful.

That is the complete story here and the pros does not like it. And that is too bad.

OMO
 
I see people who WANT to be on the PROS side but come off very very pro DEF.

In some cases (especially with law enforcement witnesses) I don't know that they truly WANT to be on the prosecutions side, they simply have no choice! These are in some cases the same guys who decided it WAS self defense and no charges would be filed, now they are being asked to testify otherwise?
 
I think we all need lots of coffee today!!

And that is a fact... :)
 
Can anyone remember, was the step-mother sitting in court yesterday next to the mom?
 
I think we all need lots of coffee today!!

And that is a fact... :)

Not stalking you, but it looks like I'm going to be agreeing with all your posts today!

What's up with this witness? Traveling across the country when he is supposed to testify?
 
Wasn't this the investigator the one who originally wanted to charge GZ with something?


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Yep, Serino changed his reports 4 times.

In the first two drafts, according to Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda, Serino wrote that he had probable cause to recommend a second-degree murder charge. Then, over the next hour, he changed the report twice more and in his final version wrote that the evidence supported the lesser charge.He did what he was told, according to O'Connor. Just above Serino's signature, the veteran investigator wrote, "I believe there exists probable cause for issuance of a capias charging George Michael Zimmerman with manslaughter."
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...rino-changes-affidavit-20121212,0,43028.story
Now all of a sudden after his "voluntary" demotion he wants to act brand new...smh. He's covering his butt and trying to get his position back, it's so obvious.
 
It is very important that the prosecution underscore the fact that Serrino was responding to O' Mara asking him in RE: up to the point of the walk-through and then this so-called "challenge interview." At that point Serrino believed that GZ's statements, AT THE TIME, appeared to basically the same.

But upon further investigation (as Serrino suggested that he was rushed to move on this challenge interview.) The detective might have seen that GZ's statements weren't matching the forensics, the statements of John M and GZ's NEN call.
 
Good morning all.

What was that discussion about? The prosecution wants to play a previously recorded witness that the defense won't have an opportunity to cross?

Who is that witness, does anyone know?
 
I just want to remind us all to make sure we are adding that the posts are only our OPINION unless backed up by evidence and please reference that evidence..

Lets make it easy for the mods and stay on track..

If something is nasty, just report DON"T reply!! That will keep you here and get the offender properly disciplined!

Let's have a great day!!!!

OMO!
 
I am sorry, i haven't followed this case before the trail. This officer was demoted? Why?
 
They showed a lot of video of the police questioning George (if you can even call that mess questioning), played audio of questioning and showed video of George going to the neighborhood to explain what happened to an officer.

The videos show a few things. One being that the police automatically believed his version of events and did not treat him as a suspect. Zimmerman's explanation also came off as implausible and there were a lot of contradictions which the female officer pointed out. One being that George said Trayvon circled his car but later backtracked that he didn't not come that close and did not circle it entirely when the officer asked him why didn't he use that opportunity to talk to Trayvon. The female officer also suggested that Trayvon may have found George's behavior "creepy" (the exact word Rachel said Trayvon used when describing Zimmerman, ironically).

However, when the officer and detective that questioned George took the stand, it was apparent they are trying to cover up for him. The female officer said that she didn't think his stories were inconsistent and it is normal for someone to add important details in later interviews.

So while the videos clearly show that George gave no reasonable explanation and contradicted himself multiple times, the prosecution still had a difficult time getting these witnesses to admit that.

EXACTLY!!! And, I caught that Singleton said "Creepy" on February 29th 2013. Long before Rachel J quoted TM referring to GZ as a "Creepy-###ed-Cracker.
 
I have every confidence that OMara will sail through this setback. Once again, I'll keep my comments about this judge to myself.
 
Yep, Serino changed his reports 4 times.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...rino-changes-affidavit-20121212,0,43028.story
Now all of a sudden after his "voluntary" demotion he wants to act brand new...smh. He's covering his butt and trying to get his position back, it's so obvious.

BBM:

I agree.

I have never seen anything like this. MOM knew better than to ask the question he asked, and Serino knew better than to give a personal opinion about whether or not Zimmerman told him the truth. JMO

Serino has a chip on his shoulder, IMO. Of course he wants his position back.

I still have not seen anything to convince me that GZ is not guilty of what he is charged with. MOO
 
After watching all the recaps last night, I feel more strongly that GZ is telling the truth.

Why?

Because he was out in front of the windows and he knew people could be watching. He knew the police were on the way and had no idea that they were not walking up at that very minute and saw the whole thing.. and then when questioned and told they had it all on video, He was relieved and thankful for it.

I think a lot of the testimony works in his favor. This has felt like a defense case. Every one of these witnesses so far has worked for the defense instead of the prosecution..

I don't see any big inconsistencies and really do believe him. His statements were all made before knowing that TM is dead, and before he knew what was on the 911 tapes and before he learns of any statements from anyone else.

I see nothing that changes that.

I think that the evidence backs GZ up. Where the other view that he was the aggressor is solely based on feelings and there is no proof to back it up.
I could not find him guilty of Murder. Im still open to see proof but right now, There is no way I see Murder. I see a fight that resulted in a death. I believe that TM attacked him and not the other way around.

I just don't see any evidence that proves it happened any other way.

JMO and OMO.

There is not a whole lot of proof to back GZ statement up. Yes, he remembers the location, he remember certain details, but he's not consistent. I think he is elaborating his story. How can someone in his position, studying the law, taking self defense classes not be able to fight back? He acts like he's the victim here. NO ONE saw, or at least didn't come forward, the whole thing, everyone got bits and pieces. The jury, and us, are left trying to fill in the blanks.
 
EXACTLY!!! And, I caught that Singleton said "Creepy" on February 29th 2013. Long before Rachel J quoted TM referring to GZ as a "Creepy-###ed-Cracker.

Was there a deposition taken from RJ?

JMO
 
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