Germany Germany - Rebecca Reusch, 15, Berlin, 18 Feb 2019 *Arrest*

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    worldwatcher Well-Known Member

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    Thanks,thought it was MSM because like you posted,it did came up as 'picture' in GT

    Police searched forest in Brandenburg to Rebecca
    07.03.19 | 19:35 clock
    The Berlin police searched a forest near Storkow on Thursday after the missing Neuköllner pupil Rebecca. The day before it had become known that the car of the suspect brother in Brandenburg had been located.

    The rbb television today sends a rbb special "search for Rebecca" at
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    dpa / Tack
    Missing Rebecca from BerlinCar-sighting of the brother-in-law causes displeasure in Brandenburg


    The fact that the car with the license plate search in the sights of the police came in Brandenburg, however, also causes displeasure. In the official search request of the Berlin police was a "traffic monitoring system" at the A12 the speech. A piece of information that the colleagues from Branden- burg would have liked to keep secret. The "existence of this system and what we can do with it", could convict criminals to drive around them in the future, said the spokesman for the Brandenburg police headquarters, Torsten Herbst, the rbb.

    on the location of the car and the whereabouts of the brother-in-law on the days in question. After previous investigation status he alone had access to the car. By Thursday morning thereupon received about 150 new notes, said a police spokeswoman.

    [​IMG]One of the license plate cameras in Brandenburg on the A12
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    In a forest area near Storkow the search operation takes place. | Image: rbb / M. Lietz
    Family continues to consider Rebecca's brother-in-law innocent
    The 15-year-old family continues to consider Rebecca's brother-in-law's brother-in-law innocent. "The whole number" is related to another thing, said Rebecca's father the station RTL on Wednesday. But he should not say what it is about. Instead, he turned directly to his son-in-law, "Florian, just talk, clarify that so that the whole search goes the other way, in the right one, we have to find Becky."

    The father had already taken the protection of his older daughter's husband. The hair in the trunk of the car was "guaranteed the day before". Since his daughter played with the niece in the car. The "Bild" newspaper cited Rebecca's mother, according to which her son-in-law also declared the trip to Brandenburg plausible. As far as the eye-catching fleece blanket was concerned, it was always present on excursions.

    There is also a
    CHRONOLOGY OF MISSING CASE REBECCA on the website of
    Suche nach Rebecca in Brandenburg vorerst abgebrochen
    • MONDAY, 18 FEBRUARY 2019
      The 15-year-old Rebecca spent the night in her sister's house and her brother-in-law's house on the Maurerweg in Berlin-Neukölln, where she slept in the living room. At 9:50 she should have been in her school, but does not appear there. The sister's apartment is said to have left the girl at 7:15.

      In the afternoon, parents report missing their daughter to the police.

    • THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 21, 2019

    • SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 23, 2019

    • MONDAY, FEBRUARY 25, 2019

    • WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2019

    • THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2019

    • FRIDAY, MARCH 1, 2019

    • MONDAY, MARCH 4, 2019

    • TUESDAY, MARCH 5, 2019

    • WEDNESDAY, MARCH 6, 2019

    • THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 2019
     


  2. HayLouise

    HayLouise Law Student

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    Mit Einbruch der Dämmerung wurde die Suche nach #Rebecca in dem Waldstück bei #Storkow eingestellt.

    Über weitere Suchmaßnahmen wird unsere 3. #Moko entscheiden.

    ^yt

    At dusk, the search for #Rebecca in the forest #Storkow set. About further search measures our 3. #Moko decide. ^ yt

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    Polizei Berlin on Twitter
     
  3. Elainera

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    Thursday, March 7th
    22:44: The search for Rebecca will continue, said a spokeswoman for the Berlin police dpa. It is still unknown when and where.

    21.32: Rebecca has already disappeared for two and a half weeks. On Tuesday, the missing woman's brother-in-law, her older sister's husband, was arrested a second time. Rebecca's family is still convinced of his innocence. But why does the family still protect the brother-in-law?

    The US crime expert Mark T. Hofmann explains "Focus Online": "If victims and perpetrators are part of the same family, it puts the relatives in a psychological dilemma. Especially for Rebecca's older sister, the situation is brutal: her sister is probably dead and her husband is suspicious. Where to go with the anger? Where to mourn? "

    It is by no means unusual that the alleged perpetrator is believed innocent until the end. The expert: "Sometimes even after a conviction. It is easy to criticize from the outside how they can be protective of the brother-in-law in this factual situation, but from the inside perspective it is quite comprehensible. "

    Rebecca Reusch (15) vermisst: Polizei Brandenburg schießt gegen Rebecca-Ermittler: „Wir sind stinksauer“


    I'm surprised police doesn't seem to plan to continue searching the woods tomorrow. They can't possibly have searched all of it in one day, even with 100 searchers?
     
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    I would think that 100 trained focused officers with 4 dogs could get a lot done in a day? maybe they had decided that they did enough of a radius around the location of the tip they had received and maybe they have more tips coming in that feel just as pertinent?
     
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    Berlin - In the case of missing 15-year-old Rebecca from Berlin, defense lawyers have criticized the actions of investigators and the media.

    The representations would undermine the impartiality and fairness towards a suspect, the adolescent's brother-in-law, "at the earliest stage of the process," said the Association of Berlin defense lawyers on Thursday.

    Demand from the press to stop the prejudice. In addition, it is also at the prosecutor's office, "to oppose the illegal activities of at least parts of the investigators."

    These corrupted with the passing on of information to media "the procedural fairness possibly irreparably".

    Strafverteidiger fordern, Vorverurteilung von Rebeccas Schwager einzustellen! - TAG24
     
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    Police are planning a new search for Rebecca for Friday
    The participation in the case is huge - but even two and a half weeks after the disappearance of the 15-year-old investigators can announce so far no breakthrough. The search for Rebecca continues.

    New searches are planned for this Friday, a police spokesman said early Friday morning.

    Also the more than 300 references, which received after a ZDF transmission "Aktenzeichen XY" on Wednesday evening with the investigators, would be further examined by public prosecutor's office and state criminal investigation. The total number of clues was around 700 on Thursday.

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    Policemen raided a forest area near Storkow (Brandenburg) on Thursday. On Friday, the search should continue


    However, if there are any new insights, the investigating homicide squad will only notify them if the impact on the investigation could be ruled out, the spokesman said.




    For about seven hours police had combed a forest in Brandenburg near Storkow southeast of Berlin on Thursday - without result.

    Rebecca disappeared since the 18th of February

    Rebecca had disappeared from her sister's and brother-in-law's house early in the morning of February 18th.The criminal investigation department assumes that she was killed. Urgently suspect is the brother-in-law of Rebecca.

    According to investigators, Rebecca did not leave home at the time of her alleged killing. This results mainly from the phone behavior of Rebecca and the router data in the house, said the lead investigator in the case, Michael Hoffmann, "Aktenzeichen XY". And: The 27-year-old brother in law was, according to investigations into the alleged crime alone with her in the house.

    The investigators are mainly concerned with two car trips of the brother-in-law. On Autobahn 12 between Berlin and Frankfurt (Oder), the car the 27-year-old used had been registered by a license plate detection system of the police. "He can give no information on both rides," said Michael Hoffmann.


    The suspect Florian R. was traveling with this red Renault Twingo on the A12 in Brandeburg.

    "It is a case that affects affected," said the spokesman for the prosecutor, Martin Steltner, on Thursday evening on the radio Berlin-Brandenburg (RBB).

    Family is behind brother in law

    The parents and sisters of Rebecca consider the brother-in-law innocent."The whole number is related to another thing, but I can not say that," said Rebecca's father to the station RTL on Wednesday. He asked his son-in-law, "Florian, just talk! Clarify that, so that the whole search goes the other way, in the right direction. We have to find Becci. "

    Polizei plant für Freitag neue Suche nach Rebecca

    (On the website there are some pictures, incl. a map about the search)
     
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    The headline is missing something. It relates to this paragraph (Google translated, ”world“ is the name of the news outlet WELT):

    10.34 clock: As the world now reports, a spokesman for the prosecutor Rebecca's family is a part of the blame for the hitherto sluggish investigation. "It always brings a certain amount of unrest and it is always a bit disturbing for the investigation, if too many interviews from outside into the investigation work. But of course she also has a right to speak out, "explains Martin Steltner, spokesman for the Berlin prosecutor, in the interview. This circumstance was not necessarily happy for the investigation, which is slow anyway. However, he did not want to rate the passage to the public in detail. "We have no evidence that Rebecca is still alive. We still do not know where Rebecca is and we do everything we can to clarify this, "explains Steltner.

    This is original WELT video they are referencing:

    Staatsanwaltschaft zum Fall Rebecca: „Es werden Interviews gegeben. Das ist nicht glücklich für die Ermittlungen“ - Video - WELT

    The DA says the family giving interviews doesn’t help the investigation. Of course, they have a right to speak out, the DA says, but it‘s stirring up things.
     
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    Heute wird die Suche nach #Rebecca in dem Waldstück bei #Storkow fortgesetzt. Sobald neue Erkenntnisse vorliegen, werden wir Medienvertretende & Öffentlichkeit informieren.

    Eine Medienbetreuung vor Ort findet aktuell nicht statt.

    ^yt

    Today the search for #Rebecca in the forest #Storkow continued. As soon as new information is available, we will inform the media representative and the public. A local media service is currently not taking place. ^ yt

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    Polizei Berlin on Twitter
     
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    Interview | Ex-Profiler Axel Petermann zum Fall Rebecca

    The search for the missing 15-year-old Rebecca from Berlin-Neukölln is still going on. Although much remains unclear, images of the suspected brother-in-law are published. The former profiler Axel Petermann shows understanding for the actions of the police.

    rbb: Mr. Petermann, the police are combing the forest near Storkow in East Brandenburg, there is still no trace of the missing Rebecca from Berlin. How close is the police to resolving a case when sending 90 policemen to search a forest?
    Axel Petermann: There seems to have been an indication of the forest. A witness has apparently made an observation that is related to the disappearance of Rebecca. This reference will be made after the public search for the brother in law of the girl and the vehicle.

    The publicity investigation has become very massive in this case from now on: photos of the suspect, the car and photos of Rebecca's things. Usually the police take their time asking for help from the public. Why is this different here?
    The fact that the public had been heavily involved in the case from the very beginning has come from the family after Rebecca disappeared. This has actually continued in the last 14 days or almost three weeks. Now there is a suspect. There is a suspicion that Rebecca may have been killed. What's missing is an answer to the question of where Rebecca can be. Therefore, one turns to the public, especially as the suspect brother in law is silent.

    The public is not a sign that the police are at their wit's end or are they in danger of default?
    Of course, that's an expression of the need for external help from the police. She herself has tried to secure many traces, including the brother-in-law's vehicle, and has come to the certainty that Rebecca probably no longer lives. And since the suspect is silent, one must now watch from outside to get help to find the girl.

    Disappeared 15-year-old from Berlinpolice continues search for Rebecca at Storkow[/paste:font]


    If you see on photos that reporters were apparently traveling with the police in the grove near Kummersdorf as if they were policemen themselves. Is that still serious, they trample everything?
    Yes, it is unusual that this area is not closed off, so you can search for tracks in peace. The medial proximity is really surprising.

    Is this the trick of the police to stage a kind of hunt? That gets the suspect too. And that may increase the pressure on him.
    I do not think that this remedy is deliberately used here.

    His family pleads with the suspects to say what really happened and he remains silent. Which circumstance can be so important that it makes a person to remain silent in a murder suspicion?
    It is the right of every accused person to be silent. He does not need to actively contribute to the Enlightenment, that is the task of the police. The investigators must prove him guilty. [...] Now, of course, one has to ask oneself, why does not this man say anything, where he could contribute to the enlightenment. I really do not know it.

    The family keeps on going to him. Is it normal that in an apparently hopeless situation the clan holds together archaic, even if it seems irrational?
    It's unusual for the family to stick together like this. I do not want to put anything into this world, but it soon sounds like you know something and keep it to yourself and have a fidelity to the Nibelung. Normally you would have to say: 'Damn it, tell me what happened here and what you might have done. There is always an explanation for everything, even if it was a wrong behavior. But give us a chance to find out now what's with our daughter. So that if necessary we can say goodbye to her and mourn. ' That amazes me that something like that does not come.
    "Die Öffentlichkeit ist von der Familie ausgegangen"
     
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    First post in this thread, but I've been following the case in German media. This is so confusing. Just a few jumbled thoughts so I can get them out of my system…

    What IMO ONLY speaks against Florian doing something to Rebecca during the night/very early morning all by himself:

    • The house doesn't look that big, if anything happened when they were all asleep, I'm having a hard time believing that nobody heard anything.
    • If they usually parked the car in the garage as opposed to the street, there is the garage door and an iron gate to open. That would make noise, especially when you live there and are attuned to the sounds. AND the same would have had to happen again when he brought the car back. So again, nobody heard?
    • Someone knows for sure when he left work/work party, and if they can check when Rebecca's phone connected to the wifi, they can also check when his did, so they would know pretty much exactly when he got home. So if that was let's say 2am instead of 5:45am like he said, they would know he's lying about that point, and he could have done something during those hours. They would also know when his phone logged out of the wifi again, IF he took her somewhere. But if it was at 5:45 like he said, they would know that he most likely didn't do anything during the night. Or am I just making this too easy?

    What IMO ONLY speaks against Florian doing something to Rebecca AFTER Jessica had left:

    • There had to be an exchange of the car if it's true that Jessica used it to take the child/children to the Kita, because the car was seen on camera in Brandenburg later. Did she bring it back and then go to work by bus/U-Bahn, etc.? Did he go get the car from her? Did she know he took it, or did he put it back where he took it while she was working?
    • It was daylight… really bold to do something like that in a residential area at a time when people go to work, parents take their kids to school, people go grocery shopping, etc. If there's an inside door from the house to the garage, I guess that would make it easier.

    In conclusion to my long and probably useless post… IMOO, it's possible he is not the only one who knows what happened. That's within TOS, right?

    PS: Axel Petermann <3
    PS: danke für die ganzen Übersetzungen, Mit-Deutschsprechende :D
     
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    Welcome to Websleuths @Jareau !

    Great first post. :)

    Grüße aus Hamburg! :cool:
     
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    Interesting overview of the most likely timeline for Rebecca being removed from the house! Given that the house is not large, the car is seen on the morning of Feb 18 at 10:30AM on the highway, and the garage is attached to the house, I think that points to her body being removed in the morning after his wife had taken the children to daycare and after he had the car.

    The time of death is more difficult to figure out. Again, because the house is small, it would be surprising if something happened while the family was sleeping. I suppose that points to something happening after the family left, perhaps at the time that the suspect was waking Rebecca for school. Maybe she didn't want to get up, he wanted her to get up so he could sleep, and there was an altercation between the 15 year old and her very tired brother-in-law.
     
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    Point re the cars and parking. Looking at streetview it appears that you cannot park right outside the house. But that’s my interpretation of streetview.
     
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    Police search for Rebecca again without succes

    There is still no answer to the question of where Rebecca (15) from Berlin is. For about two and a half weeks the girl lacks any trace. On Friday, rescue workers searched again in a Brandenburg forest for a trace to the Berliner - again without success! In the evening, the search was stopped for the time being, without anything being found.

    According to a police spokeswoman, the search activities had again concentrated on the forest area near Storkow southeast of Berlin. There was the 33rd Einsatzhundertschaft of the Berlin police since 11 clock with about 90 forces in action. A helicopter also was used.

    Support for the large-scale search action came from the police from Saxony and Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania. Both federal states sent specially trained search dogs. A total of twelve dogs were in use, six corpse detection dogs and six search dogs for living people, as a police spokeswoman said.

    Some of the dogs were used at the motorway exits Friedersdorf and Storkow, as a spokeswoman said. That should obviously clarify the possible routes of the suspected brother-in-law towards Kummersdorf.
    So-called Mantrailer dogs are specially designed to detect human beings. You can still distinguish human smells from each other after days. Mantrailers also absorb the smell from the air and not only look for tracks on the ground.


    ►Also the more than 300 new references, which arrived after a ZDF transmission "Aktenzeichen XY" on Wednesday evening, would be further examined by public prosecutor's office and state criminal investigation office. Among them was at least one indication of the forest between the small towns Kummersdorf and Wolzig. There may have been someone seeing Rebecca's brother-in-law's small car on the day of the disappearance, February 18th, or the day after.

    The total number of clues was around 700 on Thursday.

    Rebecca had disappeared from her sister's and brother-in-law's house early in the morning of February 18th. The criminal investigation department assumes that she was killed. The main suspect: her brother-in-law Florian R. (27).
    Rebecca aus Berlin: Polizei-Suche in Brandenburg erneut ohne Erfolg

    Also I did read that the car was released
    Case Rebecca Police releases tracked car
    https://www.berliner-kurier.de/berl...-32189600?originalReferrer=&originalReferrer=
     
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    Question did the police see if the dogs hit on the car I wonder? I mean if you are transporting a deceased person they should hit on the car wouldn't you think?
     
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    Thank you! :D Grüsse aus der Schweiz ins schöne Hamburg!

    I totally agree with you, I find nighttime much harder to explain than early/mid-morning. But of course LE has so much more information, so maybe they DO know if and when his phone logged into the wifi etc. I wish we knew.

    Thank you! It makes sense for them to park in the garage, or maybe even in the driveway. Which, again, would mean that at least one gate or even garage door and gate would have to be opened.
     
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    Dann muss ich wohl Grüezi sagen! :D
     
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