**GRAPHIC**- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder: ***DISCUSSION OF THE VIDEO ONLY***

Discussion in 'Luka Rocco Magnotta AKA Eric Newman' started by Salem, Jun 17, 2012.

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  1. Jujercu

    Jujercu New Member

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    Being in animal rescue ..nor do I...normally. But with this case...no way to know for sure until its confirmed. For me atleast. I prefer facts...not positive speculation..IMO
     


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    OEJ Well-Known Member

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    I promise I'm not trying to argue, and I respect your right to "see" whatever you think you see, but, it is, in fact a puppy. Barely weaned at that. Should have still been at home with his mommy, imo.
     
  3. Jujercu

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    Again, I agree that is appears to be a puppy. But again ...my original question is. ....has anyone with LE verified that.
     
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    As far as I'm aware, LE hasn't said anything about the use of any animal in the video :wink:
     
  5. Jujercu

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    Thanks...I have to say. The stuff they are being silent about is bugging me the most...hoping it all comes out in the trial. :please:
     
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    If they found a dog in the apartment or garbage; they wouldn't say as Im sure it would be used as evidence. Not trying to be insensitive here; but the dog would likely have flesh/DNA in its belly.
     
  7. Jujercu

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    ******Graphic and GROSS...MOSTLY GROSS*******If the dog was alive...would they just collect it's stools for a long period of time Baudi? I don't really know how that's works...so..yeah
     
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    I have a question about the beeping sound, I think you all can help me with that one.
    Would a fire alarm be beeping that fast?
    How do all of you recall fire alarms vs burglary alarms?
    I'm not saying the beeping is any of it,
    but I would like to read your personal "knowledge" about it.
     
  9. Silverlona

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    I forgot, I listened to the audio when I was out walking and I am positive it is a lighter and inhalation at 09.37.
    If you can hear the traffic, and maybe, people talk, the window could be open.

    I have thought about the automatic voice, but I don't think it's it.
     
  10. AudreyRose

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    I'm having trouble even hearing the beeping in the audio track. How long does it last? Could it be a cell phone? The camera low-battery singal? An alarm? Microwave? Just trying to brainstorm things that could've been in the apartment at the time.
     
  11. Haunted82

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    I'd say the beeping is not a fire alarm or burger alarm at all. It's evident I think from the 'feedback' mic from the recording device, or from his speakers that he was playing the New Order song. I really cranked up the audio and reviewed it thanks to your interesting transcript and I never even noticed before those footsteps. That is VERY INTERESTING. They are WAY TOO LOUD to be coming from the ceiling (upstairs) , or the hallway or wherever. Those are RIGHT IN THAT IMMEDIATE area. And while he is on camera standing still cutting at the buttocks, its clearly there. Wow, a whole new angle of intrigue.
     
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    I just went back and heard it and realized I had already heard it before, but I too assumed it was feedback.
     
  13. Silverlona

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    I don't think it's feedback.
    I thought about it last night, and in my head I made a post about it but I guess didn't. =)
    Anyway, there's a company outside my house. The automatic fire alarm often goes off.
    When I'm inside I hear this fast beep, but after a few seconds the beep "blurs" into a "constant" beep and after a few seconds there's the fast beep again.
    Like this:
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    If I stood outside this company house I would only hear the fast beep.
    Like this:
    ---------------------------------

    Ok, this looks like a crazy post...
     
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    I need to go back and listen to the beep but I was wondering if it could possibly be his laptop battery dying? Like I said I haven't listened to the audio alone yet but when my laptop battery gets low, it beeps... and it will beep faster if it's about to shut off.
     
  15. Haunted82

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    Very possible too. Definitely not a building alarm, IMO. It's beeping very fast at the conclusion of the video so perhaps thats when it died. Then he had to plug it into an outlet when doing the editing. So what about the footsteps at those certain spots when he's standing still? That is really odd.
     
  16. Silverlona

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    >AudreyRose
    Brainstorm is a great thing!
    >sinwonderland
    Laptop battery dying? I thought about it (or a cell phone) but to be honest I never let my laptop battery die, so I don't know the sound when it does. Good thoughts!
     
  17. Silverlona

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    You first hear the beeping around 06.23 in the audio track. It goes on untill the end. That means it goes on for more than about 3 and a half minutes..
    Would LRM really go out of electrcity?
    Being the "internet addict" that he was/am?

    AND another thing I thought about last night. I someone use a angle grinder (?) in the middle of the night, wouldn't someone react to that?!
    If you can hear other people sneeze next door (If that's what it was) someone odd to noticed the grinder.
     
  18. Sunday

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    This is excellent. Thank you! I am going to give a listen and provide feedback if I have anything to add. I wish I could muster up the guts to watch the video again, but I can't at the moment.

    And, yes, it does seem like he kicks the dog, for posterity I guess... Jerk.
     
  19. Apple OC

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    I said that I would not watch the video again, however after reading what people have been saying here, I did watch and listen again very carefully. What I saw and heard is yes the dog yelping, yes the beeping (however I am not sure what it is yet because it does speed up and slow down), the walking around does seem to be someone else is doing that while the cutlery cutting happens. I also noticed a strange shadow movement that shows in the top right corner of the screen on the bed during this cutting part.To me it seemed to come from someone else and then I hear the noises from outside.

    I am almost convinced these are small clues that someone else is in the room.

    IMO, there is no doubt police can see and hear much more than we can. I would be curious to know what the police have heard and seen on the extended version that would also be enhanced by LE in both sound and visual.
     
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    I've asked the same question yesterday and have got no answer either. Like you, I haven't read any official word about what kind of animal is that and in different boards we read different opinions (is a cat, dog, ferret, etc) :maddening: :banghead:
     
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