**GRAPHIC**- Luka Rocco Magnotta:1st deg murder: ***DISCUSSION OF THE VIDEO ONLY***

Discussion in 'Luka Rocco Magnotta AKA Eric Newman' started by Salem, Jun 17, 2012.

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  1. Haunted82

    Haunted82 New Member

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    I'm curious do you have an online source or link that associates Manson with that quote. I've studied him for years and never heard that exact quote prior to this case. I tried googling it but couldn't find a match. It certainly is a quote I can see associated with LRM, as that's his train of thought.
     


  2. Silverlona

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  3. pannekoek

    pannekoek New Member

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AudreyRose
    ^^^ This. I think it's definitely possible LM thought he was being very clever by trying to confuse people. I also think he purposefully edited the video in a haphazard way to keep people talking/speculating.

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    I agree...it was VERY haphazard and a few things appear to be out of sequence as well...odd...but not really for LM

    IMHO, he’s just really **** at editing and probably didnt even notice the audio mistakes he was making, LOL

    I’m starting to think the audio we can hear is not the audio that was recorded during the acts. He left the mic open while editing and that are the noises we can hear. There’s too much walking around and in my recollection of the video that doesnt match with the visuals. Except for maby the soft New Order version. I think that was important bec he wanted to stab JL in sync with the music of the song...
     
  4. Silverlona

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    I posted the audio timeline before, but here it is again.

    New Order Song - Extended Version 05.37min

    Audio:

    00.00-05.44 Loud New Order song
    01.19-06.56 Low New Order song

    00.06-00.08 Touching camera/Mic
    01.03-01.06 Touching camera/Mic
    03.44-03.46 Touching camera/Mic
    05.47 Touching camera/Mic
    06.06-06.06 Walking around
    06.10-06.19 Walking around
    06.19 Hummar
    06.23-06.27 Walking around

    06.23-> Beeping sound

    06.29 Dog barks
    06.30 Moves and hits the dog?
    06.31 Dog whimpers

    06.55 -> Beeping sound is heard clearly

    06.36 Touching camera/Mic
    06.38-06.42 Walking around
    06.45-06.53 Walking around
    06.56-07.10 Walking around. Doing something..
    07.12-07.14 Traffic
    07.14-07.20 Walking around
    07.25/26 Someone sneezes/coughs, far away
    07.28 Again Someone sneezes/coughs, far away
    07.29-07.49 Walking around
    07.39 Sniffles
    07.41/42 Someone shouts/talks, outside?
    07.53-08.13 Walking around
    08.16 Sniffles
    08.20-09.03 Walking around. Doing something..
    08.54-08.56 --> Strange sound, bird?
    09.04-09.11 Car driving by
    09.19 Sneeze
    09.21 Sneeze
    09.26-09.30 Touching camera/Mic
    09.28-09.33 Walking around
    09.37 --> Strange sound, a lighter? Inhalation? (Smoking?)
    10.10-10.20 Cars drive past
    10.20 Someone shouting/talking, outside?
    10.23 Again Someone shouting/talking, outside?
    10.24-10.26 Touching camera/Mic
    10.29 Sniffles
    10.32-10.33 Someone calls/talking (e.g "Yeah" ?) outside?
    10.36 Sniffles
    10.40 Turning sound of
    10.41 End of Audio
     
  5. Jujercu

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  6. thedissent

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    Here is LRM's "mirror" quote that he scrawled on the wall of his apartment:

    LRM is saying that he is a reflection of society-- if we don't like what he has done, then we better not look in the mirror at ourselves.

    This basically a copied/plagiarized paraphrase of Manson's famous notion (in his testimony at trial) that he is a "reflection" of society (" I am only what you made me. I am only a reflection of you").

    Here are a few Manson quotes from his testimony in the Tate-LaBianca murder trial:


    Same idea. I don't think LRM has ever had an original thought in his life, TBH.
     
  7. pannekoek

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    Is it maby possible for someone to put the video on filedropper? I think if I download it my technologically challenged vintage IMac would be able to play it. Im a bit technologically challenged myself but think it might work. This mac just wont play videos in internet browsers... with the audio file it worked...

    Now Im just making assumptions based on my recollection of the video.. which I dont like bec its probably distorted...
     
  8. ToBeHonest

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    I haven't seen the video and that was my first time listening to the audio. I will never watch the vid, least of all because I won't let LM ruin my 80s music for me. :)

    I'm no expert on electronics but the heart rate monitor theory creeps me out more than anything I've heard and I want to try to debunk it for my own sanity. First, any monitor that produces monitoring sounds would likely be hospital grade and out of LMs price range. Second, the sounds seems to take place long after JL is gone, so it makes no sense, well, unless he layered audio from the actual "event" in there to add a bit more horror for those who can figure it out. Third, the sound sounds to me as though it's coming from behind the camera, this could be coming from his computer. I guess he could have pulled up a wav file online of a heart monitor just to creep people out. This point also stands if he layered the sound in. To me the sound isn't close enough to J L to be coming from him.

    I honestly haven't a clue if any of this is near right, just my thoughts.

    To me, the most chilling part in finally hearing the audio is how calm it is. It's akin to "la la la, gotta dismember this then cut this and oh yea forgot to do this, gotta go back," like he was following cue cards. It was no louder or more emotional than when I'm baking muffins or cleaning. I expected it I guess but not really.
     
  9. Haunted82

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    Considering you haven't seen the video, thats a good analysis. I share a lot of your positions, and i've studied the video in depth, like some of the others here.
     
  10. pannekoek

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    Well, I might be starting to hear things that arent there... but to me it sounds as though you can hear the puppy make a noise at around 07:19, a k-eh (?) sound, at 7:28 an ‘euh’ sound and immediatly after LM gniffels/laughs for max 2 seconds.
     
  11. Scientific

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    There might be a difference in the audio quality on your sound system since others are hearing it as beeping, not hissing.

     
  12. Scientific

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    That is a relief to hear that it was probably just interference. Thank you for clearing this up.

     
  13. AudreyRose

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    I didn't mean to further disturb people with my comparison to a heart rate monitor! lol. I'm fairly certain LM didn't in fact have a monitor - I was just trying to liken the sound to something, and a heart rate monitor was the first thing that came to mind. I'm leaning toward the sound being some kind of feedback.

    The calmness of it all creeps me out too. Especially the very "human" things like sneezing and sniffles. I found myself shocked by the fact that he sneezed! (as if this "monster" wouldn't sneeze like the rest of the world...) It's just so normal that it seems grotesque in that setting.
     
  14. Silverlona

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    I have read about heart rate monitors. Apparently, there are really small ones, smaller than a hand. And they sound like the ones in a hospital. I think you can by those on different sites. There is also heart rate monitors that look like a watch but I don't think they beep.
    The best match I have right now, from listening to different beeps, is that it sounds like a smoke alarm.
     
  15. Silverlona

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    I have added your note "07.19" to the audio timeline.
    This is the same sound at 08.54-08.56 that I noted as "--> Strange sound, bird?"

    At 07.28 I am pretty sure that it's someone else sneezing twice, inside or outside the building but not in LRM's apartment.
     
  16. Silverlona

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  17. Sillybilly

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    This may have been mentioned before, but there are tons of heart rate wavs on the internet that he could have had looping.

    When a person is hemorrhaging severely, the heart rate speeds up. Therefore, if the beeping was an actual heart monitor of a person hemorrhaging, IMO it would be odd to have the heart rate speed up, slow down, then speed up again as it does throughout the audio.

    I actually get palpitations listening to the audio, but if anyone else has listened to it numerous times, can you tell if there is a pattern that might indicate repeated looping of audio?


    ETA: What is "Hummar" at 6:19?
     
  18. Amandes

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    I meant it's a constant beep which sometimes changes to several, becoming faster (at 6.55min) and even pulsating a little bit, English isn't my first language. I guess what I am trying to say is: it never stops, just changes.

    almost like beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep-beep-beep-beep-beeep-bebebebebebeep-beeep-beeeeeeeeeeeeep-.... ;)

    And there is a slight hissing in the background too, but that is just due to the audio quality, hence it's nothing special. I use Audio Monitors, which produce an almost perfectly clear sound
     
  19. Silverlona

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    Sorry, it should be "Humming". Like when you listen to a song you like, you go "Hm hm hmmm".
    IF it is a humming he seemed to be in a good mood.. =/
    The audio might have been after, during or before the crime.
    I think it's while editing (After the crime) so the humming is creepy..

    (Of course it's before, during or after!)
     
  20. Silverlona

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    What do you mean with "Audio Monitors"? What is that? Is it a visualization meter?
     
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