**Guilty of 2 of 3 charges (hung on kidnapping)**Verdict watch

[gitana1]

Reading these with interest, I wanted to comment on something I have not heard discussed. I think a large part of why criminals are not prosecuted vigorously, is because there is not room in all of the jails and prisons to house them. When you look at not only the amount of crimes, but the spike in the violence and outrageous types of them, it appears to me that society needs to take a harder look at just what is causing them to occur in the first place. And that's a discussion not relevant here.

Cost certainly could be a factor. It seems it has in certain cases, Like Kyron Horman's. The state had to justify to the citizenry spending money on a search. In casey anthony's case, the money spent prosecuting her kept being brought up.

But I did want to point out that according to national stats, violent crime rates are actually going down: http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/june/crimes_061112/crimes_061112

I think we have always had horrific crimes. (In fact, The Diary of Martha Ballard, written by a colonial woman, shows that is the case). We just have better news coverage and dissemination today.

 

[Marigold]

"Baby Gabriel's mom wants out of jail"

"Baby Gabriel's mother says she should be released from jail until her sentencing on convictions of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial inference and unlawful imprisonment. Elizabeth Johnson has been in jail for nearly three years. Last week, a jury convicted her on three charges in connection with the December 2009 disappearance of her then 8-month-old son, Gabriel Johnson."

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Baby-Gabriels-mom-wants-out-of-jail-175788741.html

Am I wrong in remembering that Johnson fought tooth and nail with her prior attorneys? Didn't she try to play the psychiatric card too, causing lengthy delays? Someone please help me out, am I thinking of the wrong case?

 

[luckygirl]

"Baby Gabriel's mom wants out of jail"

"Baby Gabriel's mother says she should be released from jail until her sentencing on convictions of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial inference and unlawful imprisonment. Elizabeth Johnson has been in jail for nearly three years. Last week, a jury convicted her on three charges in connection with the December 2009 disappearance of her then 8-month-old son, Gabriel Johnson."

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Baby-Gabriels-mom-wants-out-of-jail-175788741.html

Am I wrong in remembering that Johnson fought tooth and nail with her prior attorneys? Didn't she try to play the psychiatric card too, causing lengthy delays? Someone please help me out, am I thinking of the wrong case?

Nope, you are remembering the correct case.

 

[artsy1]

"Baby Gabriel's mom wants out of jail"

"Baby Gabriel's mother says she should be released from jail until her sentencing on convictions of custodial interference, conspiracy to commit custodial inference and unlawful imprisonment. Elizabeth Johnson has been in jail for nearly three years. Last week, a jury convicted her on three charges in connection with the December 2009 disappearance of her then 8-month-old son, Gabriel Johnson."

http://www.azfamily.com/news/local/Baby-Gabriels-mom-wants-out-of-jail-175788741.html

Am I wrong in remembering that Johnson fought tooth and nail with her prior attorneys? Didn't she try to play the psychiatric card too, causing lengthy delays? Someone please help me out, am I thinking of the wrong case?

As I recall, it wasn't EJ who played the psych card - it was her attorneys. She has always maintained that she is sane, and doesn't need mental health treatment. In fact, IIRC, some of the letters she wrote to the judge talks about how angry she was with her attorneys for claiming she was incompetent.

 

[krkrjx]

shes so happy, she got away with the murder of her child!!!

Yep, and she reminds me of that other one who smiled when she got away with the murder of her child.

 

[Ransom]

I have no idea why this "thread" title says 2 of 3 charges (hung on kidnapping).

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She was FOUND GUILTY of 3 charges
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/10/baby_gabriel_mom_elizabeth_joh_3.php

AZ can retry on kidnapping (since it was hung) IF they wish. Not going to hold my breath though.
JMO.

 

[artsy1]

I have no idea why this "thread" title says 2 of 3 charges (hung on kidnapping).

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - **Guilty of 2 of 3 charges (hung on kidnapping)**Verdict watch

She was FOUND GUILTY of 3 charges
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2012/10/baby_gabriel_mom_elizabeth_joh_3.php

AZ can retry on kidnapping (since it was hung) IF they wish. Not going to hold my breath though.
JMO.

Actually, they can't retry her on kidnapping, since she was found guilty of the lesser INCLUDED charge.

 

[max2012]

Actually, they can't retry her on kidnapping, since she was found guilty of the lesser INCLUDED charge.

Thank you for clarifying that...it was pretty clear in the media. Not sure why anyone thought Elizabeth could be retried.