GUILTY GUILTY OF ABUSE OF A CORPSE ONLY OH - Annabelle Richardson, newborn, found in grave 7 May 2017 #3

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  1. Jewels53

    Jewels53 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks! I didn't think he did. I just posted before I saw the replies. I am done with subject. Imo it should have never been brought up.
     
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  2. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    I know Dr. Susan Brown, forensic pathologist, at the Montgomery County Coroner’s Office, was the first witness to take the stand last Friday.

    The following article names Dr. Uptegrove -- after opening statements but I don't recall.

    ‘All evidence points to homicide’: Doctor testifies on baby’s death in Skylar Richardson trial

    On Wednesday, opening arguments began and several witnesses took the stand including the baby’s father, Trey Johnson, two OBGYN’s from Hilltop OBGYN, deputies from the Warren County Sheriff’s Office and Coroner Dr. Russell Uptegrove.
     
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    osu Well-Known Member

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    I think this is very important point. They were asking the questions that way because they believed this IS what the evidence showed. They weren't trying to convince her of something they didn't think actually happened. Now, I have reservations about them continuing with that theory after the expert walked that opinion back, but that doesn't change that the detectives were genuine in their desire to have to story match the evidence.

    Wow. That's a horrible experience and I'm sorry you had it.

    Exactly! If that baby was stillborn (and I don't believe it was, but if...) she had no way of predicting that. She still should've had a plan for a live birth. And she just didn't.

    I thought about all of the places she could've used to look that up, too. It was way too specific to be a lie, IMO. As for the other stuff, that just seemed like such an odd time to bring it up if you had evidence of it. Why not bring it up on cross of the forensic computer audit?
     
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  6. osu

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    Good point about the YMCA. She probably had access to a computer while at work too.

    JMO
     
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    oops sorry didn't mean to post that
     
  8. MyBelle

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    BBM. That isn't the point. We have no way of knowing whether she was having sex with Brandon. She was already pregnant and may have thought they were just incredibly lucky. Her mother certainly assumed they were having sex. I think it highly likely they were having sex. Whether it was protected or not is irrelevant because in hindsight, we know she was already pregnant.

    The question the doctor's office always asks isn't, "when did you last have unprotected sex?" but is "what is the date of your last period? BSR claimed it was March/April but the doctor did the urine test to make sure. He also took measurements. But even looking at her, not even the doctor could accurately pinpoint the gestational age because the baby was small. I think it was small because of extreme malnutrition.

    JMO
     
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    SeesSeas FLORIDIAN

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    COURT TV has a discussion video about the excessive 'chatter' by investigators in the 2nd interrogation (starting at timestamp 5:40):
    https://www.courttv.com/title/9-9-19-oh-v-richardson-who-actually-confessed/
    96 pages, 2,400 lines
    Investigators Speaking: 2,035 lines
    Skylar Speaking: 365 lines
    They also noted that much of "Skylar Speaking" was "Inaudible"

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    The counterpoint to that is the defense will argue she thought she had more time to decide what to do. And that she had good reason to think she had time. Dr. Andrew testified he told her at the appointment she would have a baby in about 10 weeks. Less than 2 weeks later was the birth.
     
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    IMO these detectives weren't exactly interrogation superstars. But the sense I got is that they had her exactly where they wanted her. She was a legal adult yes, but acted like a meek scared kid called to the principal's office and they ran with it.

    They must have been marveling at their luck when she came in without a hint of legal representation the second time. It was almost too easy. This whole case rises or falls on that interview.
     
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    I believe that he said this and that she took him at his word, but I think it's a little odd that he made such a point of it. Even if he thought she was at 32 weeks, babies come early all the time, especially in situations where complications are present or prenatal care has been sub-optimal. And if they do come early, being prepared to have access to medical care is often critical. You'd think he'd have been a little more likely educate her about the timing being a window instead of a target.
     
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    I've seen this too in at least one article, but I'm not sure it is correct. There was certainly no evidence at trial that the doctor agreed, reluctantly or not, to help Skylar deceive her mother by prescribing her birth control pills despite the fact she was pregnant. The doctor testified that they had already prescribed the birth control pills, but canceled the prescription after learning Skylar was pregnant. My suspicion is that the pharmacy messed up and didn't cancel the prescription as directed, as there was some discussion on this subject during when Skylar was talking to her parents after the first police interrogation, and the mom says something about the pharmacy calling to say the prescription was ready. In any event, these unsourced comments in articles are not before the jury, as there was no evidence along those lines presented at trial
     
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    Yeah I see your point. I suppose he thought she was going to come back to Hilltop soon for an appointment like he told her to do, and that he would have a lot of time to counsel her at future appointments.

    I'm kind of surprised the clinic only tried to reach her 2 or 3 times when she didn't make a follow up appointment. But then again they are busy I'm sure and there were privacy limitations on reaching out to her due to her living with her parents I suppose. Still, you would think that a high school student showing up for a routine birth control prescription appointment and suddenly revealed to be (third trimester) pregnant already would be hard to forget and hard not to wonder WTH happened (until of course she came back mid July).
     
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    I suspect this is just another instance of Skylar being suggestible, and trying to tell police what they wanted to hear. Faine told her they were going to search her phone, and asked her a couple of times whether they were going to find searches about abortion or getting rid of a baby, making clear that it would be bad for her if she did not tell them ahead of the searches if they would find that kind of thing. Skylar sounds really uncertain when she says maybe she did a search about "something like" how to get rid of a baby. When pressed about it further, she says she may have searched like one time, didn't think they'd find much, etc. In other words, my sense was that she was pretty uncertain, and was afraid to say she didn't do any searches, in case they found something along those lines.
     
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    Hmmm.... interesting article!
    I-Team Payroll Project: With multiple paychecks, coroner makes $317K
    Dr. Russell Uptegrove is among the top 10 highest-paid employees in both Montgomery and Warren counties, according to the Dayton Daily News I-Team Payroll Project.
    [...]
    “I’m a hard working son of a *****. That’s how it happens,” Uptegrove said when asked how he is able to perform multiple jobs. “I don’t play golf. I don’t have a lot of other time-consuming hobbies.”
    [...]

    Here is the video which includes his testimony:

    Law & Crime Network
    Published on Sep 4, 2019
    Skylar Richardson Trial Day 1 Witnesses John Smith & Russel Uptegrove
     
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    Dr Stewart Bassman said today that BSR’s dependent personality disorder makes her want to please authority figures. If that’s the case, then why didn’t she listen to her doctor, Dr Andrews, when he told her that she had to come back for an ultrasound appointment the very next day? Why would she continue to avoid calls from his office and even when he tried personally calling her himself?


    “Cincinnati psychologist Stuart Bassman said "Skylar was being manipulated" into making false statements during interrogations. He described Richardson as a vulnerable, immature person whose dependent personality disorder makes her want to please authority figures, even to the point of making incriminating statements that were untrue.”
    Doctor testifies about Skylar Richardson's reaction to pregnancy

    JMO
     
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    Oh, I see your point and why it differs from mine.

    You took into consideration that Brandon could have been the father and that the doctor would even consider it was a month-old or perhaps a two month old pregnancy when the measurements were showing it was the previous-year by the doctor. I had this discounted even consideration of that in my flow of logic.
     
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    I speculate that the answer to this question was that at this point, her mother loomed larger as a much scarier and and riskier authority figure than the doctor. I bet in her calculations of the risk, it seemed way worse to make another trip to the doctor (which she seemed unlikely to do without her mother's involvement or knowledge based on their ~one million text messages about the first appointment). I think it still fits the pattern we've seen from her -- she chose the path that seemed the least scary and avoided what was about to happen until it blew up.

    I think this might actually also be why she returned to the same medical practice in July even though that was a terrible idea if she wanted to keep her secret -- it was the path of least resistance to just go where her mother planned for her to go rather than do the adultish legwork of seeking out another doctor. (I also think deep down she was having some guilt and her subconscious sent her back to the place where someone would ask her the truth, but...)
     
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    Of course the prosecutor never called the mom to the stand. To me, it makes it obvious she knew and possibly involved and would have dismantled their case and chance of conviction.
     
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