GUILTY - Sidney Moorer RETRIAL for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 9 Sept 2019 #2

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  1. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Bingo, it was the deceased family member and came from social media. Sorry let's table it, I'll not mention again.
     


  2. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    Hey all! I'm trying to catch up. Did watch yesterday testimony about the detailed cleaning of the truck but SM, TM and their minions and burning of the rags. Any thoughts as to why this is just coming out?
     
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    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    Oh I agree. Does the jury know he's incarcerated at all? I haven't been able to watch much of the testimony, have been out of town.
     
  4. TTF14

    TTF14 Spaceship Headlight Pattern Expert

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    I don't think so.
     
  5. Justice-seeker

    Justice-seeker Well-Known Member

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    If her car was that messy then they very easily could have tossed her stuff aside then threw it all back. I also don’t think you would notice a struggle in a messy car like that. However I do see what you saying.
     
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    Wow I missed that about the gunshot off of 31...
     
  7. Justice-seeker

    Justice-seeker Well-Known Member

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    Is there any info on where the mothers car was fixed on the 18th? Didn’t she have a flat tire??
     
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    And why (very sarcastically) would a new truck need that much cleaning?! :confused:
     
  9. TTF14

    TTF14 Spaceship Headlight Pattern Expert

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    Oh, the usual.....Ya know....getting rid of DNA evidence of the kidnapping and murder you just committed.
     
  10. Richmond

    Richmond Well-Known Member

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    I think I remember speculation that if SM's DNA was found in Heather's car it would not be significant because it would be hard to determine when it got there. But was it ever determined whether there actually was any of SM's or TM's or anyone else's DNA in the car other than Heather's? It is a puzzle how the car got there if whatever happened to Heather occurred at Longbeard's. I guess if someone were completely covered and wearing gloves and a hat, it's possible not to leave any evidence of one's self?
     
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    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    and didn't they say when they did search it, it was messy and dirty? Not 'clean'? so it didn't take long for them to junk it up again
     
  13. TTF14

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    Not a chance.
     
  14. Dontknow?

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    I think they have stuff held back for a murder trial and that may be one tid bit they have released. jmo
     
  15. Delta Dawn

    Delta Dawn Verified insider - Heather Elvis case

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    I had a thought regarding the cement that I had dismissed a long time ago refresh in my head while cleaning the house today. I think it was triggered because we're hearing a little about a boat, and so the thought has returned.

    What if that cement was to be used to weigh down Heather so they could put her in the water? If you are familiar with cases, you know that happens all the time when murderers try to dispose of their victim. Even Lacey Peterson had been weighed with cement. :(

    Although I doubt we'll ever know if that was the case, I have to think that they had to have a reason to have a bag of cement sitting there so had that silly alibi of needing it for the playground at the ready. Which takes us back to premeditation.

    Gosh, I hope murder charges come back.
     
  16. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    If he does I'll be very surprised. He doesn't have TM drilling it into his head their version of the story and I don't think he'll be able to keep it straight. I did zoom in on the computer screen in front of him in one of the videos from yesterday, it looked like it was a deposition he was reading, best I can tell, couldn't read it just looked like one based on the format. To me that would be the only reason he's able to have a computer so that he can study his deposition, so maybe they are acting like he's going to testify...
     
  17. Surfside

    Surfside Court's Indulgence

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    Hey bestill! I haven't heard anything mentioned in front of the jury (or at all, now that I think about it) regarding his current incarceration.

    Does anybody know if the State is allowed to bring that up? I imagine they can ask SM about it if he's on the witness stand, but can they bring it up with another witness or in closing arguments? Since he's in jail for obstructing the investigation that resulted in charges against him, I feel like the jury has a right to know that. But yeah, I know facts don't care about my feelings, so what are the facts?
     
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    RSBM: I've been debating about that. On the one hand, he may know how TM put the final nail in her coffin the moment she raised her right hand and swore to tell the truth. On the other hand, wasn't he whining, either at the end of his mistrial or his obstruction trial, about how he wanted to testify and Truslow wouldn't let him?

    I'm not sure. I think he's a lot more passive than TM, but if he wants to testify, I have my doubts as to whether his current counsel will fight him very hard on it. That whole Defense table, top to bottom (SM included), seems so sleepy and apathetic compared to the likes of NL and CH.
     
  19. TTF14

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    I really hope the minions are prosecuted for obstructing justice, covering up a crime, perjury......
     
  20. Justice-seeker

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    Or they didn’t do it there. They could have incapacitated her in other ways. Stun gun, chloroform etc...if they planned to transport her in her car I would assume they would have been aware not to leave any traces of a struggle. If she was alive in her trunk there would be no evidence. Not sure how full her trunk was with belongings...
    I also don’t think they were able to properly process the car initially and if SM’s DNA was in there it wouldn’t prove anything because he had been in her car previously.
     
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