GUILTY - Sidney Moorer RETRIAL for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 9 Sept 2019 #4

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  1. Momof4RN

    Momof4RN Well-Known Member

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    What I would give to have audio with these recordings.
     


  2. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    ETA:@gitana1, these are her comments at sentencing (Tammy Moorer sentenced to 30 years in prison after being found guilty of kidnapping Heather Elvis):

    Tammy Moorer stood before the judge and spoke before sentencing.

    “I’m a mom to four kids because I have an extra one right now that I’m looking out for. They don’t have anybody else. They don’t live in this state. We had to leave this state because of harassment," Moorer said to Judge Benjamin Culbertson, “They don’t have anybody else to care for them and they need their mom and I don’t know what else to say to you.”

    Moorer continued and maintained her innocence even after the verdict was handed down.

    "I am Heather’s No. 1 advocate. I want to know what happened to Heather probably just as much as her parents do. I want to know what happened to her. I have nothing to do with her disappearance. I’ve never met her. I’ve never seen her,” Moorer said.
     
  3. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Don't be fooled kaen, even though the trial is over NL & CH still have their eye on the ultimate victory. The murder trial & conviction.
    Neither are going to give away details in public which would jeopardize that. The DA war room still has Moorer secrets we haven't heard, which will be used in the murder trial!!!

    ETA-They did say they want to find Heather's body.
     
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  4. CarolinaAsh

    CarolinaAsh Well-Known Member

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    I didn't get to meet Heather. They took her away before I had the chance. Yet I felt a white hot rage when she said that.
     
  5. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    I never met Heather either but I KNOW that she didn't deserve the wrath of evil that pounced on her from that diabolical family. She was naive and had no idea of what she was dealing with. SM knew - yet he continued. At one time I thought he really loved her but after hearing the testimony and watching the truck cleaning video with the TM kisses that's all I need to know. I pray the State will have all they need to put those two away for the rest of their lives.
     
  6. Gardenista

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  7. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    Did we ever find out what other kids she was talking care of? What parent would ever put them in the care of a suspected kidnapper and murderer? I think tm had a slip of the tongue.
     
  8. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    I think Morgan is right. Sidney is broken and doesn't know where Heather is. Hearing that from her since she was there thru this all solidified my feeling Tammy is the one with info. And she still is holding something severe over his head
     
  9. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    I don't know, he could say that and tell what he knows about her involvement. Not sure that he has at this point.
     
  10. TTF14

    TTF14 Spaceship Headlight Pattern Expert

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    Amber Berbiglia?
     
  11. bestill

    bestill It's a Disney Day for SC Inmate 00378074

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    Would love to ask the State if they think there is a connection between the two! Maybe we need to message Dateline and 20/20 because WS members always know more than they do.
     
  12. Momof4RN

    Momof4RN Well-Known Member

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    This doesn’t look broken to me
     

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  13. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Funny, that's the same reaction I had to that gross moment. Thinking to myself, look at the way he's walking around like a little rooster. One or both of them killed Heather days previously. It was a very sobering thing to watch.

    For years I believed he loved Heather, and was really leaving Tammy that night, she caught him talking to her, and then whatever happened.

    I don't think that's what happened today, he disgusts me.
     
  14. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    Oh i totally agree... that pissed me off to no end. I don't know if he is just trying to put on an act for his parents, or what. I see him flip flop with emotions. Even with that laughing with his parents, i still think he did actually have feelings for Heather, and until he got 'caught' they were genuine. But i think he fears Tammy MUCH more than he lets on. I think they all do. And i think he has to play a part if Polly or Ashley or anyone else is even around. I don't remember him acting that way with his parents before. 'Something' has changed, maybe they know what she holds over him. MAYBE, just maybe, with no chance of him being out in the world and around her, his conscience will grow back (i think he had one at ONE time, BT) and he'll tell all he does know. IF she is holding his kids over his head thru PC and AC, then maybe not. I don't know what i'd do in that situation. And i've been there to a point. My ex threatened the life of my child when she was too young to be able to report or run for help. I was at his mercy until i could plan a way for her to be safe. He threatened to kill her and himself if i took her away. And i know damn well he would have done it. I lived in a fear bubble (which i'm one independent ***** normally) but he had a way and he knew it. This was 20 plus years ago but i still can't believe i let it happen. So i CAN see something like that going on.....
     
  15. Richmond

    Richmond Well-Known Member

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    Yes, and the Elvis family has done an amazing job of exhibiting grace under pressure. To not respond to that kind of provocation is so, so hard. One just has to realize that TM lives in her own delusional world and the most important thing is to NOT ENGAGE with the craziness. It's like a whirlpool and even tried to suck the Judge and her own defense attorneys into it--their heads were spinning. Her defense lawyer was actually speechless as he tried to come up with some legal maneuver not to have those witnesses' testimony suppressed. (referring to her mother and kids live streaming the trial in the sequestration room during TM's trial.)
     
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  16. New2MB

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    Totally off topic, but $10 local tix through the end of Sept at Family Kingdom! Lol
     
  17. Warwick7

    Warwick7 Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean any other information SM or TM would give wouldn't qualify?

    "Sidney now has 363 more days to provide substantial assistance," he said, mentioning a legal requirement that would enable Moorer to reduce his sentence if met. "What I mean by that is to provide us with the body or some portion of it."
    Tammy Moorer's window, he pointed out, was days away from closing for good."
     
  18. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Thank you so much. I started the video earlier. That horrible woman has three children? Is that right? Ugh. Bless their souls. How old are they?
     
  19. dixiegirl1035

    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    One thing that we all missed in the trial that we spent so much time on here, is her social media posts! Perhaps 20/20 will have some of those. And if they don't, perhaps somebody will send some screenshots to them so they can be included in that program.

    :floorlaugh:
     
  20. kaen

    kaen Trying to be a good human.

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    I would hope the idea is to press on to find her body and then get any and all of the guilty parties in prison for murder. The big solicitor had said there was stuff he wasn't going to say. It is clear that they have very detailed information from Donald DeMarino based on how they asked him questions on the stand. So, I was surprised to hear that NL and CH implied they used what they had. It makes sense that it was that they used what they had to prove the conspiracy to kidnap and kidnap charges. I had felt all along that the video of the car washing was saved till near the end of their case presentation and it was intended to send a message to Tammy and Sidney that they know what they did and have proof. The prosecution can't connect all of the dots but that video certainly could make Tammy and Sidney think twice about gambling about a limited possibility murder charge. I do happen to think that Tammy's dad is the one who disposed of the body and, most likely, Sidney doesn't know where she is exactly but he knows that she is dead. My money is on Tammy for knowing the location and I worry that she is freaking crazy that she won't tell in order to preserve the image her kids have of her.
     

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