GUILTY - Tammy Moorer trial for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 8 Oct 2018 - #10

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  1. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

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    I remember we talked about that retention pond. Was it ever searched?
     


  2. klosssm

    klosssm Verified Probation and Parole Agent

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    Amen. Now we need to retry Sidney and find Ms. Heather..
     
  3. BAH

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    I used to live on Augusta plantation. I would get a eerie feeling when driving by the retention pond near longbeards. So eerie that the hair on my arms would stand up.
     
  4. Kakidoll

    Kakidoll Karma never forgets

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    I know this has been discussed, but my mind is still questioning... so....
    We know the PG test was bought at walmart, and we also 'know' it most likely wasn't for TM. So if it WAS for HE, why did he buy the cigar? That's usually a 'celebratory' thing with a positive test (as it used to be when a baby was born). I can believe it more if TM was NOT in the truck at that time.

    I guess i'm still getting my head around the fact that it wasn't all TM's idea/plan, i don't know why i just have this gut feeling that SM was 'manipulated' into something..... maybe i just want it to be so for HE sake. my mind just won't stop tonight.
     
  5. Justice-seeker

    Justice-seeker Well-Known Member

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    I have said it before. I feel
    Like everything that they did, especially TM was contrived. Who knows maybe he was just supposed to get the test and at the register he decided to add the cigar to make it more believable. Maybe it was meant for him an TM once their “sinister” deed was done.
    The way they were stalking leads me to believe that one of them was dropped off somewhere. It’s why the truck went to PT, in my opinion it was to pick the other up. Get back home. Hoping no one has noticed one parents absence. JMO. Sad. Disgusting.
     
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  6. 2Hope4

    2Hope4 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not certain that Tammy was with him the entire time. I have often wondered if SM wanted to know if the pregnancy was real or not, and bought the test for Heather. BUT, Tammy didn't know, and she either caught them together after that, or I can't remember the calls and pings, maybe she realized they were meeting? And she confronted them both. Demanded Sidney 'get rid' of Heather. I don't know.

    I know men will use younger women for sex and to make themselves feel good that a younger woman would be interested in them. I don't know if SM had any love feelings for Heather, or lust feelings only. Logically Heather had just gotten an apartment with a friend, but had been homeless, and was a waitress/hostess. She couldn't offer much in the finance dept towards a relationship. She was young, and not established yet. Sadly she'll never get that chance.

    SM may have been weighing his options when TM wasn't speaking to him, and trying to decide if it was worth leaving his kids, his house, his stability for HE.

    I don' t think the emotions were all or nothing. They can be complicated. Especially when you throw a possible pregnancy in the mix. From fear of an unwanted pregnancy, child support, alimony, divorce, possibly seeing if HE would consider abortion, feelings of this isn't so bad I've done it before, I can do it again, feelings of what if, maybes, etc.

    I guess I could guess from now to eternity but without their Moorer telling, I don't know if we'll ever know. There's just too many theories of where and what they did. I'm certain she was killed, but no idea the means, and the where. The dumpster is probably a good idea. I think in a retention pond, she would have floated to the top. I can't remember if it was searched with radar, but I seem to remember searches happening in that area.

    It's been almost 5 yrs. My memory of last week is foggy, there's no way I can remember all details from that many years ago.
     
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  7. brandalous

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    Was this before or after Heather went missing? Sounds like it's a place that's worth a (first? second?) look.
     
  8. BAH

    BAH Well-Known Member

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    It was after Heather went missing.
     
  9. angelbaker

    angelbaker Where is Heather?

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    Before Christ/Anno Domini but it does mean after Christ’s birth. It is typical mistaken for after his death.
    Coming out of lurkdom only because it’s the one thing I DO know.
     
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  10. brandalous

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    Snipped to narrow down to just what I'm responding to...

    I think that though their phones were together all night, they weren't necessarily together all night. I keep thinking about how they were talking about PC's car, and I think it would have been a better option for following Heather around. Non-descript and no pesky navigation system to mess with. Too bad it wasn't inspected for DNA!
     
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    ETA quotes around the vulgar statement. I was trying to make fun of Tammy and her testimony but I do believe TM and SM did things in front of her and made her watch because of the picture texts she sent before Dec 18
     
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  12. Curious Guy

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    Confession. I've been crushing on her the entire trial :D
     
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  14. Freddo Frog

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    Two things, and anyone can answer...

    Firstly, were Heather's body found would there still be a foetus within her body? I imagine that there would not be.

    Finally, I have always wondered if she was put in water, the comments made about the neighbour having a boat made me think that even more. I am not saying that the neighbour is involved, or even let them use his boat, but I have always suspected them and water. BUT your suggestion about the road trip being used as a cover is a very good one. I hope searchers trace that route.
     
  15. ohiobuckeyegirl

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    As weird as this sounds, I've always wondered if TM forced HE to watch her and SM have sex before she killed her. Just with all the hate and jealousy, sending the nasty sex pic to HE and her weirdo sex stuff..nothing would surprise me with this monster...she is that sick and demented..
     
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    Were the dumpsters ever searched after she was reported missing? I don't think I recall reading anything about that. I hope they were.
     
  17. ohiobuckeyegirl

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    I actually just replied with something similar before I saw your post. I do believe she is that sick and evil!
     
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  18. pinkinablueworld

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    I'm very happy with the jury finding TM GUILTY of both charges, however I don't understand why the judge would allow her to serve her two sentences concurrently. I think she was found guilty of both charges, and deserves 60 years.
     
  19. ohiobuckeyegirl

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    I saw a copy of the text. It read "got he ad". I think it meant "got the ad". Making an alibi that she got the bi-lo ad while she was out or from online. To make it look like they really were couponing.
     
  20. ohiobuckeyegirl

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    I remember when I first heard about the cell pings years ago, I suspected they left HE in the Waccamaw wildlife preserve. PTL is about a 7 minute drive from the Moorer's home and the refuge almost completely surrounds both places. I believe its something like 30,000 acres and has the river flowing through it and what looks like a pond. Not trying to be morbid, but probably has alligators.
     
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