Gun Control Debate #6

Discussion in 'Rampage Killings and Terrorist Attacks' started by Tricia, Feb 17, 2018.

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  1. kimlynn

    kimlynn Former Member

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    Would it be the big bad government or the city/county in which you reside that would have this list.
    Who cares if it goes over big with gun owners. You all have had a free for all for to long with guns.
    It isn't going over big for many of us that kids are being murdered on a daily basis.
    And cars have to be registered as well as a record for people that marry or buy a house with a deed as a record of who owns the property.
    Why should guns be exempt. IMO
     


  2. killer Chaser

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    They should really allow teachers to be armed in every state it's the only way to stop 90% percent of the mass shootings at schools. https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/03/16/6-reasons-gun-control-will-not-solve-mass-killings/
     
  3. human

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    It would be nice to know who owns guns that are used in crimes
     
  4. human

    human Well-Known Member

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  5. Blef

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  6. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    No need for mandatory insurance. Simply no coverage. And if someone wants to sue the irresponsible gun owner, no insurance to cover if safety precautions are not followed . For instance, gun taken out of your car and then used in a crime. No insurance for the theft and no insurance for the lawsuit where you can lose everything. Your home, car, life savings to pay for the suit.
     
  7. Blef

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    No-one apparently. They are all just for self-defence or hunting
     
  8. bobcat

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    Well the point is that any kind of gun control scheme that includes registration of all guns, is never going to happen. Why not discuss options that are feasible rather than outlandish ideas that will go nowhere?
     
  9. MaryG12

    MaryG12 Well-Known Member

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  10. kimlynn

    kimlynn Former Member

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    From your posts you seem to think nothing will work. And why call gun safety/control a scheme.
    Many gun owners are open to gun control measures.
    As far as registration or lists of guns owned...of course some will be sold or change hands under the table,but it seems as though it would help in some cases to have a record of who owns or owned a gun. IMO
     
  11. Blef

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    Maybe they think anarchy would be the answer? Seems like any sensible gun control measures are just not worth the lives they would save /s
     
  12. MaryG12

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    I have an idea regarding students who are potential threats to their own schools, and just public schools in general:

    A school psychologist, taxpayer funded, and it would not even have to be one psychologist exclusive to one school, it can be a school district psychologist.

    Because some of these kids clearly need it, granted, maybe their parents cannot afford taking their child to a psychologist.

    Because when a child gets a mental aberration (different from mental illness), it needs to be fixed, the child needs to be straightened out.

    I am seeing way too many children with collapsed boundaries who have no idea how to act nor behave and fall into anti-social behavior far too quickly.

    This behavior of wanting to shoot in order to "deal" with rejection (like the MD boy who shot the girl and bystander today) needs to stop.

    These children need major behavior modification in their lives; they need to be socialized into NOT shooting up schools.
     
  13. Spellbound

    Spellbound falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus

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    Just curious, but why would I want to hide what I owned? I have to list them for insurance purposes if I want them covered.
     
  14. bobcat

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    I do think certain things would help. First, enforce already existing laws. Nicolas Cruz likely would not have had firearms if the police/FBI would have done their jobs. Second thing would be get rid of the "gun free" zones. Anyplace that's deemed gun free is a prime target for any would be mass shooters. Third, appropriate punishment for violent crimes. Murder gets the death penalty every time. Any crime committed with a firearm, life in prison, no parole, no exceptions.
     
  15. Blef

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    They also need to be kept well away from guns and ammo.
     
  16. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Great idea but there needs to be an army of them. We had a grant for therapy at my school and there was no way to get all kids in. The program lasted one year because of no more funds.

    I had four children who had their sexual abusers serving time in prison. Parents wanted therapy, but they could not get it. They had jobs with no time off and no transportation or babysitting for the other children. School was the perfect option, but other kids filled up the slots. Ones that were showing behaviors. .

    If only money could go for that.

    And there is the problem of kids leaving for pull out services. Speech, OT, PT, special learning services. There are only so many hours in a day.
     
  17. kimlynn

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    If the gun free zone signs were taken away you would probably have several students feeling free to tote their guns or parents guns to school.IMO
     
  18. killer Chaser

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    Yep!!! You need a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun. If they banned all guns more than 100 million of them would eventually wind up in the hand of criminals. Half of all gun owners wouldn't turn there guns in, it would be about as effective as prohibition. The way technology is now criminals could make guns in there garage and if there's a demand they will be made.
     
  19. Blef

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    Oh my lord. A lot of the "bad guys with guns" own them legally, or get them from family who own them legally. Maybe we should just bury our heads in the sand and hope the gun violence problem just goes away on its own eh?
     
  20. Blef

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    I should have guessed that was an NRA tagline.
     
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