Hailey Dunn: General Discussion thread #3

Discussion in 'Hailey Dunn' started by Salem, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    I feel pretty sure SA took HD somewhere.........
     
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  2. Knox

    Knox Well-Known Member

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    It's on facebook, I think you can find it with a google search or link from the page.
     
  3. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    BD. You know who I mean.
     
  4. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    There was no child porn or bestiality found anywhere in BD's house. We know this for certain because if there was they would have said so in the affidavit for the subsequent search of the grandmothers house where they listed all the porn they had found and where for probable cause, and they did not. So put that to rest.

    I know that the sheriff was throwing wild accusations and allegations about at one point, but approximately a year later, according to Detective Alexander (the lead investigator on the case in CC): "Images depicting bestiality and other deviant sexual acts may be disgusting, she said, but as long as they're not being done in public, they're not illegal. No child pornography was seized in Colorado City, she said." Hope persists a year after West Texas girl went missing

    It was only on the computer at the mothers house, and that was almost certainly downloaded by one of the people living there, they just could not say who. Specifically there was a porn collection of ~100k images, some of which included bestiality. The suspected child porn (which means it was probably young looking teenagers and they were not sure about how old they actually were) was deleted files, meaning it was probably downloaded accidently by whoever the collection belonged to and they deleted it because they were not interested in that fetish. It is pretty unlikely to be the mother since she allowed LE to take the computer and therefor did not know what was on it. I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to figure out who the porn collection belonged to.
     
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  5. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    Child Pornography Found In Hailey Dunn Home
    BBM
    I am going to respectfully disagree with you and prefer not to put it to rest. This is MSM which reported the incident. Wishing it wasn't so doesn't make it so.

    SWEETWATER, Texas - A digital memory stick containing images of child pornography was discovered in Billie Dunn and Shawn Adkins? bedroom as law enforcement searched for evidence pertaining to the disappearance of Colorado City teenager Hailey Dunn, according to Mitchell County Sheriff Patrick Toombs.
     
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    claudicici Well-Known Member

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  7. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    Even BD admitted the memory stick/flash drive was in their house and SA brought it in. Just always taking up for him.
     
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  8. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    My quote was MSM as well.

    Toombs was making stuff up because he wanted to convince people that his theory was right, and is an unreliable source. You might give him the benefit of the doubt and say he was misquoted, and never bothered to correct it. Or he could have been deliberately giving out misinformation to inflame local opinion. Those are really the only two options IMO, neither reflects well on him. Alexander was the actual investigator on the case and made her statements long after Toombs was shooting his mouth off, so she is correct.

    Plus, they listed the porn found in various places in the later affidavit to search the GM's house, and there was no mention of any CP being found at BD's house. If there was they would have said so. And certainly if there had been Toombs would have charged someone without question because at that point he was clutching at straws to keep his hypothesis alive.

    The affidavit itself is no longer available online, but I am pretty certain that it did not mention CP as being anywhere other the mothers house on her computer (some deleted images) and a single emailed image that might be CP on a computer at the GM's house. All the rest of the stuff was regular porn. Toombs was being quoted as saying that CP was found on a memory stick found at BD's house early on, but that was not repeated in the affidavit. Early reports (which you can still read) from local newspapers conflated Toombs earlier quotes with the affidavit and repeated the claim before the affidavit came public, but once it did it was clear the affidavit said no such thing. There is a discussion of it in this thread: Search Warrants Affidavits 3/18/2011 . Around page 13 people start questioning what the local reporters were claiming once the affidavit was public.

    That is probably why you were confused. You remember the early reports when the SW was carried out, but not the subsequent revision once it became clear that the early reports were wrong.

    In fact in that thread you can see people asking why Toombs never corrected his earlier claims that there was CP at BD's house when there actually was not. IMO it says something about Toombs and the way he was conducting the investigation.
     
  9. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    If you watch the video I linked above, it shows Billie Dunn stating there was a flash drive found in their house and it did belong to SA.

    I think we can agree to disagree. I just see it differently than you, but that is why I love this website. We can all disagree.
     
  10. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    There was not any CP on it though. At the time Toombs was claiming there was she said she had been told there was not by other LEO, which was correct. She may be at some later point be saying otherwise now, quoting Toombs, because she fell out with SA and it suits her for people to be focusing on him instead, but we know Toombs was wrong. Her saying that now does not make it true.
     
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  11. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    Deleted post-old news
     
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  12. Knox

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    Twenty more days until the ninth anniversary of Hailey's death, will we ever see an arrest?
     
  13. Topppps

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    I take it they didnt find any evidence on her body? Do they know cause of death?
     
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  14. Tugela

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    Since her remains were apparently a few bones, probably not.
     
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    Where did you read it was just a few bones?
     
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    According to information released by the dad and those working for him, they claim that she overdosed on drugs and then SA took her out to the lake, and shot her in the head. They claim there were 2 other people there as well who are witnesses. They claim that also Billie was part of the coverup, but pieces are missing.

    Earlier in the case the PI Billie hired stated it was evidence, through pings, of Billie and Shawn riding around on the backroads not far from where she was found. We know Billie lied about what took place that morning. And we also know they stated that they believe she died in the wee morning hours of that Monday.

    The link between how or why Billie supposedly covered it up, is still a mystery. If the story is true and she didnt do anything, then why help cover it?
     
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    Knox Well-Known Member

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    Guilt for bringing a dangerous d-bag into her home who ends up murdering her daughter?
     
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  18. AutumnDawn

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    Yes, she brought him into her home, but surely that would not be a reason for covering up for him. A burden she has to carry for the rest of her life, but a bigger one would be letting him get away with it, if she has information.
     
  19. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    She did not lie about what happened that morning. The affidavits state quite clearly that her movements that morning were determined by "records and interviews with witnesses". Unless you are accusing the police of flat out lying on the affidavit. They did not rely on her account alone. I don't know why people keep repeating this nonsense when we know for an absolute fact that it is not so. As I have pointed out repeatedly, people are getting the day HD went missing and the day she was reported as missing mixed up. They are consecutive days, not the same day.

    There was no evidence of BD and SA riding around the backroads based on "pings" (which were actually call routing records, not pings as such, and all are known from the affidavits). So whatever this "PI" is claiming is nonsense.

    Why would they have taken her to the lake and shot her in the head if she overdosed? That is ridiculous. What would be the point of that? Is the father now claiming that HD was doing drugs??? Some of these speculations are getting pretty far fetched now.

    BD is not covering up anything. She does not know what happened to her daughter. Apparently CD seems to know a hell of a lot more, if you are to be believed. Most of what appears to be changing stories on her part is precisely because she does not know, and consequently comes up with all sorts of theories based on what her current relationship with various other parties in the story happens to be at any one time. A lot of people do that, it is human nature.
     
  20. sloane7777

    sloane7777 Well-Known Member

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    The only way any of that would make sense is if SA drugged her to Rape her and Billie was in on it , and shooting her in the head because maybe she woke up other than that I cant see why you would shoot a person that has overdosed , makes little sense .
     
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