Hailey Dunn: General Discussion thread #3

Discussion in 'Hailey Dunn' started by Salem, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. AutumnDawn

    AutumnDawn Member

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    Shawn Adkins himself stated on Facebook that he took Billie to work on Monday. Now why he would change his story, only he knows. The friend who supposedly took her to work that Monday told Clint she did not.

    Police said in the very beginning it was hard to get to the truth, because people were being dishonest.

    Why people lied, and changed their stories is beyond me. I'm not here to argue with anyone because at the end of the day none of us, to my knowledge, were there. All anyone has to go on is police reports, witness statements, and statements made by key players. No need to attack each other or argue with anyone, because as we all know a lot of facts have been kept from the public. All anyone wants is justice for Hailey, WHOEVER did it, needs to be held accountable. If people lied they need to be held accountable. If people changed stories, they need to be held accountable.
     
  2. AutumnDawn

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    It was her sister in law from her brother I believe that took her back to Colorado City on that Tuesday when she found out she was missing.
     
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  3. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    I remember that AutumnDawn. This would have been on Tuesday, the morning I think SA might have taken her to work. I remember someone at SA's work stating to LE BD was in the car with SA the morning he quit, but that is not corroborated anywhere else. I think that is what we are all remembering. Also, the lady who supposedly took BD to work on Monday claimed later she did not take her that morning. You are correct about all the lies. They do come back to haunt you and it makes their stories all confused and facts are hard to come by in this case.

    Someone took her that morning (Monday). I remember early on debating the story about what route he took home. I always felt BD should have seen him returning to CC that morning. They should have met each other on the highway. That is not a well traveled road by any means.

    I am afraid we may never know exactly what happened.

    Praying for Justice for Hailey!
     
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  4. Gunslinging Granny

    Gunslinging Granny Well-Known Member

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    Under which article is that post?
     
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  5. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    It cannot be linked since it is on Clint's facebook page. You can Find it on there.
     
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  6. AutumnDawn

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    Namnymoo I agree, if they were both traveling between ccity and snyder around the same time then Billie would have seen her car going back into town. Then most people would have called and asked where he was going....but again who really knows.
     
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  7. nannymo

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    That was the first time I started to really question their story. I was pretty much onboard with runaway before I started hearing that.

    It didn't take me long to start questioning. Hailey is the case that brought me to Websleuths and I have been here ever since.

    I so hope someone is really working behind the scenes to bring her Justice.
     
  8. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    I found an interesting article but not sure I can link it. Where do we find our moderator?
     
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  9. Knox

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    Nannymo, just PM Tricia with the article and link to the facebook page. I think Tricia should interview Erica & Clint for her podcast!! I suggested that to her months ago, but never heard back. Justice for Hailey!
     
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  10. nannymo

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    I did, they are looking at it and will let me know.
     
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  11. Knox

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    Thanks NM. So I read something today. Clint is "claiming" that Scurry County DA-Ben Smith is the prosecution road block. That information came from a few of the investigator's who worked Hailey's case. DA Smith evidently wants a full confession from Adkins before he will bring murder charges.

    Have no idea if that's true? I was thinking about contacting some reporters, see if there is a real live investigative journalist out there with some chutzpah ... someone who won't take no comment or silence for an answer. Someone who might call or show up at a County Supervisors meeting to ask some questions in public. :)
     
  12. nannymo

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    Great idea! The article can probably be found with a good google search. It's from Clint's PI.

    Someone needs to investigate this case.
     
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  13. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Hi Nannymo,

    I really appreciate you checking first before posting.
    The article in question is not a mainstream media article. It is a blog about personal experience. While the writer offers a very compelling and chilling story there is nothing offered in the way of proof to back up what they said happened. I am not suggesting they are lying. All I am saying is this is not a mainstream media type story and it is because of the lack of verification of what is being said.
     
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  14. Tricia

    Tricia Owner Websleuths.com Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Hi Knox,
    My apologies for not getting back with you. Please understand that sometimes, on a daily basis, I will get 100+ private messages, emails, Facebook messages, text messages, even a couple of carrier pigeons have shown up on my doorstep. Ok, the pigeon thing is not true but the rest is the truth.
    In reality, I would love to Erica and Clint on my podcast. If anyone knows how to get in touch with them please email me at triciastruecrimeradio@gmail.com or carrier pigeon works too. :)
     
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    Phone number at link Who Killed Hailey Dunn - with that number of daily communications, figured it's safer to link you directly :)
     
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  16. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Tricia for checking. I was afraid of that but since the writer is also Clint's PI, I thought it might be allowed. :)

    Hope you give those pigeons a treat occasionally!
     
  17. nannymo

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    Well don't you need to interrogate a suspect to get a confession? As far as I know he hasn't been questioned in 9 years!

    I certainly hope more is going on behind the scenes that is not being reported.
     
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  18. Tugela

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    I doubt that the DA would have said anything like that to investigators, unless he was being facetious in response to questions from them about why no charges were being brought. Basically the DA telling them that there is no way that he could charge anyone with the sort of evidence they had short of a confession. And then some people with poor comprehension skills reinterpreting that as him refusing to charge with anything less than a confession.
     
  19. Tugela

    Tugela Well-Known Member

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    He stopped over at the GMs house, it would have been quite easy for them to miss each other. Also, if she was not watching cars then she would not have noticed even if he did pass.

    According to the affidavit his cell phone was making calls between 6:35 and 6:56AM. He would have been at the GM's house making those calls in order to decide where to go next since there was no one at the GM's house. BD left home at 6:20, which means that she would have been on the road passing by while SA was making his calls at the GM's house in Dunn (which was about 16 minutes driving out of CC). So, if she left CC at 6:20, she would have been passing Dunn at around 6:36AM, and at 6:35 SA was at the GM's house making his first call, not on the road, so she would NOT have passed by him on the road.

    Keep in mind that those calls would have been to other people, and those other people would have been able to corroborate that as well, which means that it be fairly well established exactly where SA was and reasonably well established what he was doing. Phone calls resumed at 9:38AM when he was at his mothers house. He would have arrived there earlier than that, and most likely the time of arrival (which would have been earlier, unless he started making phone calls the second he stepped out of the car) can be corroborated by the people living there. So, SA's movements can probably be established fairly accurately, which is something to bear in mind for a prosecutor if they were thinking of filing charges. There would have to be time to do the crime as it were, and my guess is that when the data and witnesses are fully analyzed, there is no time.

    As for how BD got to work, according to the affidavits it was confirmed by interviews AND by records. So, no matter what people might be saying later, we can be fairly sure that whatever BD told LE about her movements that morning was accurate. Keep in mind that if she told them one thing, and they later found out something different, she would have been charged with obstruction (we know this because she WAS charged with obstruction in a different incident involving the CP search warrants). The same thing holds with statements made by other people btw. If they were deliberately lying initially they would have been charged if it could be proven that they were lying.

    LE interviewed people at SA's workplace. There was no mention of BD being there. If BD had been in the car at the time they would have said so in the affidavit since the sheriff was hostile to SA and BD at that point. He would have used any slight grounds for suspicion against them and used that in the affidavits.
     
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