Haleigh's General Discussion Thread for 2012-13

Discussion in 'Haleigh Cummings' started by Kimster, Apr 3, 2012.

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  1. ktgirl

    ktgirl Verified College Instructor

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    Bolded by me. I'm pretty sure that's because the mother had/has a drug problem....making drugs the most important thing in her life...even more important than her children. I'm not saying she doesn't love them but she is an addict. And I don't think she was even always or often exercising her visitation before HaLeigh went missing.

    The mother also has limited resources- I don't think she has had steady, decent employment. She's used to being used by people (her relationship with Ron sure sounds like she was abused and used) and let down by her own parents (who allowed her to move into Ron's place when she was 14 or something ridiculous and allowed her to quit school.) I don't think she has higher than a 9th grade education. She doesn't have the resources and knowledge of how to properly keep HaLeigh out there like say, Mickey Shunick's family did when she went missing. When you take little resources, low education levels, and add a drug problem, I'm not surprised....

    It became pretty clear to me when everything went down with the HaLeigh Bug foundation (or whatever it was called) and when Kim Picazzio dropped her that HaLeigh's mother had been living a very tough life for a very long time and that she was dealing with some very serious addiction issues. I hope for her sake and for Junior's that she has been able to sort this out. I also hope she gets her GED and learns some sort of trade or something to make herself independent.

    I also think that in many ways, she is still that scared young teenaged dropout without proper parenting that Ronald got pregnant in many ways. I think she may be scared of him (even in jail) or his family and be too scared to continue to speak out. Now I agree, if I was the mother of a missing child, I'd speak out no matter what.

    The thing that sucks is that when you look at both sides of HaLeigh's family as well as the Croslins, it's hard to find one person who seems like someone you'd want around your child at all, let alone be responsible for the child. I feel like Hailey had no chance at all. I hope Crystal Sheffield and her family are doing everything to give Junior a chance. Somehow, though, I doubt it...
     


  2. ktgirl

    ktgirl Verified College Instructor

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    Just wondering - any reason why you don't include Tommy as part of a Part IV (and of course this would still fall under the "Misty knows" deal).

    I keep wanting to think that Misty must have been so very high that night that she honestly cannot remember or that she was not at the motor home.

    But I also wanted to believe Zanny took Caylee and she was alive at Disney or the beach with the nanny and nanny's nieces or nephews, even though it was obviously a lie.
     
  3. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    Great video Papa. My feelings exactly. This "family" were willing to literally kiss Misty's butt to protect one of their own. Period.
     
  4. lonetraveler

    lonetraveler Crime Addict

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    I can hear similarities between Crystals C.'s voice and Hope's voice. Hope is one of the Fab Four sitting in prison. I do believe that the voice I'm hearing on the 911 call is definitely not Misty's.
     
  5. Whisperer

    Whisperer Well-Known Member

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    From the first day I heard this story, my theory was that Haleigh died at the hands of misty. Misty called her brother to help her out. He called JO for help. JO swore he would kill him or his family if tommy ever told anyone he helped him dispose of Haliegh.
     
  6. nurselady

    nurselady Active Member

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    Amen..Good post!!
     
  7. B4igo2it

    B4igo2it Well-Known Member

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    But WHY would the Cummings family defend Misty/the marriage if this theory is correct?
    Like so many other things, this does not fit. Defend Ronald, yes, but Misty? IDK
     
  8. 4Jacy

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    Everyone else had to be a suspect so that Ronald could keep Jr.
     
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    Prayers and kisses for you, sweet darling.
     
  10. the seeker

    the seeker Well-Known Member

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    Where is Haleigh? Time to talk people, this has gone on long enough...do something RIGHT with your life. Let this little girl rest in peace.
     
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    Responding to my own post here....

    If they did talk, who would believe them? They have lied so much....the only person that was pointed at by them was JO. Why? And did LE really investigate him thoroughly? It just doesnt make sense. Poor Haleigh may very well have gone into that water....but nothing is left in way of evidence. Heartbreaking. Will we EVER know?
     
  12. 4Jacy

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    What about Nay Nay's statement that they were partying at the pond and Haleigh OD'd on drugs. Why would she say that? Did she ever take a LD?
     
  13. the seeker

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    I think about that a great deal too. I do not know if she ever took a LD...I would like to know. It seems to us outsiders that there are things that LE is just dismissing. But, we are not privvy to all they know, unfortunately. They may have good reason for not charging JO or believing Nay Nay.

    I think that whatever happened, Haleigh may have ended up in the water, so Nay Nay's story may be true. Is the pond near the river? Are there Alligators near or in the pond? What if they were all high, and Haleigh was too near the water...at night, with alligators around. No one would want to admit negligence in that case or worse, and if Ronald had supplied much of the drugs, he wouldnt want to lose JR, which he would if this was the case. Hence all the butt covering of each other going on. I dont know.....I do feel that short of a drug overdose, nothing happened IN the trailer. Nothing with any blood or any other hard to conceal evidence.

    There's no evidence. None that can tell us what happened to Haleigh. So something capable of concealing all physical evidence...theres not a whole lot that fits into that category, except an alligator. Cant very well open the stomachs of every alligator in the waters of Florida....the evidence was literally consumed, I am afraid. What else could hide ALL evidence if something of a violent nature were to happen? Nothing that I can think of. It is true that if it was an overdose, there would be little evidence in the trailer then....but there was an awful lot of talk of water and gators early on.

    Possible that an OD did occur (via accidental ingestion or someone giving her something) and THEN she was placed in the water. Crud...I just hate talking about this, poor Haleigh.
     
  14. Whisperer

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    To make RC and his judgement about childcare remain at a decent level, it was necessary to embrace misty. Misty, in one swoop, could bring down rc with sex charges. He would fact upwards of 20 years.

    Therefore, the family faked their way into the media with nothing but high regards for misty and what a wonderful care-giver she was. I doubted that she was ever that. In fact, she was pretty much done with baby-sitting when rc went on night shift.

    Haleigh was dead, rc knew it, and he wanted to keep jr. Keeping misty appeased was the priority. If he didn't, he was going to pay. Misty was down that road before and knew exactly what she could do if he didn't keep her happy. So he married her.
     
  15. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    Sorry O/T, but I have to say I love your avatar. I also LMAO at your signature. Cindy Anthony cleans them......LoLoLoLoL.

    :floorlaugh:
     
  16. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    On a more serious note, this is one of many cases that bothers me. I'm glad the perps are where they belong :jail: but nobody has answered for what was done to Haleigh. They likely won't find a body now, and if none of the perps will "sing" then her death will never be acknowledged, and those responsible will never pay. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but these are low-life, trailer park mentality losers who should never have reproduced. Thank the heavens that Misty Croslin will, hopefully, be too old to procreate by the time she gets out of prison. Same goes for her useless "ex husband".
     
  17. Nonni Brenda

    Nonni Brenda Georgia girl

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    Welcome PrincessSezMe, to Haleigh's Thread. I couldn't have said it better...:welcome4:
     
  18. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    Thank you for the warm welcome :blushing:

    :gthanks:
     
  19. PrincessSezMe

    PrincessSezMe Rest in Peace

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    Another "staged" crime scene and no body. Very little, and conflicting, information forthcoming from the people present when the crime occurred. Very little information to go on other than the story that was given by Misty, and the "questionable" information given by Flora Hollers to the talk shows (and I believe that one....NOT). What Flora Hollers said about Haleigh being tossed into the river though is likely true IMO. LE dragged Misty out of jail to that bridge for a reason. They wouldn't do that on a whim.

    I study statement analysis and it is said in every lie there is a bit of truth. That's the only thing we really have to go on in this case. Work records show Ronald Cummings was not present when it happened, so he can be eliminated as a DIRECT suspect in Haleigh's death. But he was definitely complicit in the cover up, so he must have something to hide. Misty Croslin, however, WAS there. She is the key......the truth will only be known if and when she ever talks. Or, if her brother Tommy, who also knows more than he's telling, talks. What they have said so far is mostly BS.

    I really believe this all revolves around drugs. Either Haleigh got into it and took it on her own, or Misty drugged her to keep her quiet (because of her weekend binge that she wanted to sleep off, which I think is more likely) and overdosed her. Anything that happened after that was a coverup. Ronald Cummings participated in the cover up because it was likely his drugs that killed her.

    Just my opinion for what it's worth :twocents:
     
  20. mommyofthreekidz5

    mommyofthreekidz5 Praying daily for many miracles

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    I didnt know that Lindsy and Hank got back together. Did anyone else know this ?
     
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