If the jury believes that Kronk poked at the skull & it fell out of the bag & no duct tape, there goes the states case.
If one juror believes Kronk put the duct tape there, it's over. Sadly I say this, as I know in my heart she is 100% guilty of murder without any remorse, Caylee was in her way of her freedom! Her parents were on her to stay home & take care of her, but SHE wanted to be a party girl!!
I agree. It's not so much that the defense created reasonable doubt, it's did the prosecution prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt? I too think they did a great job but without knowing how Caylee died it leaves unanswered questions which can cause doubt.
I really have not been following this case, so have been playing catch up. I did watch GA's testimony, that also captured footage of KC when he broke down. I've long felt bad for the man. As for KC? I admittedly did not have the same reaction that you experienced.I did have a visceral reaction to KC yesterday, however.
Well, yes and no. Bowlby and Ainsworth's attachment theory of development has become widely accepted in the psychology community. And attachment issues invariably reveal "tells." In this case, outside of the single father's day video, I saw no notable behavioral "tells." Which, in turn, and imho, is arguably consistent with the reported bonded relationship between KC and her daughter. And which admittedly still leaves me perplexed wrt what really happened.I also don't make much of these reports from friends. The test of a "loving mother" is how she behaves when no one is watching.
So true.I agree, but in fairness, stupid defense theories are no more evidence than the affect of a defendant when not on the stand.
True again.You and I would both have some things to set aside if we were deliberating.
I still have the same opinion.. The only "reasonable doubt" is that I reasonably doubt there is any truth in Casey's defense
Yes I do think the defense has given me reasonable doubt. But mostly I feel the prosecution did not show me conclusively that this was in any way premeditated via chloroform nor duct tape.
I dont trust the program on the computer saying that that site was accessed 84 times. I feel like it could have been just as easily a cumulative count of all the sites visited. Myspace, 83... the how to make chloroform being 84 then the next site 85 etc.
I believe with all the poking and rolling out of the bag Etc... I hate to write that. but the duct tape could have just as easily been applied after death.
I do believe Casey had something to do with Caylee's death it could just as easily been an accident / neglect. Manslaughter. LWOP
It would never cross my mind to call you any such thing!
On the contrary, I very much respect your level headed approach to this case.
I too think it's a no-brainer that KC was somehow responsible (even if only through negligence) for Caylee's death.
But without a cause of death, I'm not sure I can know which of the charges would apply.
And, in theory, the jury has to agree on a charge as it is specifically defined. It isn't supposed to be good enough to say, "Well, she did something, so we'll give her manslaughter unless the State can prove a higher charge."
Everyone keeps saying this but I don't see how you can prove exactly how someone is killed when finding the body skeletonized ... or not finding a body at all. That might make potential murderers think they can always get away with murder as long as the body isn't found in such a state to give any clues as to cause of death.
On another thought..I have always thought ICA was guilty but I did have some lingering doubts whether it was an accident or premeditated murder. I believe the defense actually convinced me more that it was premeditated and that she is a stone cold sociopath. Just watching her and JB throwing her father under the bus like that .. she just seemed so cold and uncaring.. i became more and more convinced she is a sociopath and could kill Caylee and go about her life like nothing happened. I didn't expect to see such evil from her.. just sitting in court.
Here's a very interesting read for those in quest of deeper understanding and enhancing their knowledge base. I found it quite apropos considering the DT rested today.
I found this particularly interesting:
"Thogmartin said the charged emotions inevitably triggered by a child's death add another layer of complexity. Forensic pathologists, in his view, can get "caught up in the anger, the emotion, the despair." Their mindset can become prosecutorial, Thogmartin said, until every child death is a "homicide until proven otherwise."
It hurts me to say this but for me, George's mistress has created reasonable doubt. At this point the entire family has lied (including George Anthony about his affair) and the only person that I found credible was the mistress (don't like her morals though). This now makes me think that perhaps George has been lying all along & that he did help Casey with covering up the accident. In the beginning of the trial I was VERY convinced that Casey was guilty of premeditated murder. Now, the only thing I'm convinced of is that the entire family is full of NUTCASES!! If they were able to create reasonable doubt in my mind, it's very likely that they were able to create reasonable doubt in at least one of the jurors minds. I'm not a happy camper guys because I'm not a person who's easily swayed.