TX - Heidi Broussard, 33 Found Deceased, & Margo Carey, 2 weeks, Found Alive Austin, 12 Dec 2019 #8

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  1. Artis

    Artis Well-Known Member

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    That's right and considering she was busy trying to frame Shane, it wouldn't have worked, in that script, to be reaching out to him.
     


  2. Mariposa

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    Well said. We all know it certainly looks bad for MF in terms of guilty of murder but the prosecutor will have to spell out how there is probable cause to believe they can prove every element of the statutory crimes at issue. This was a crime scene that spanned a lot of territory from Austin to Houston. And once LE identified their suspect, they didn’t have the luxury to methodically build a murder case because they had to swoop in to save little Margo (and I’m sure they hoped they might find Heidi alive but alas). So I understand why the murder charge is taking time to happen.
     
  3. vlpate

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    In the back of the car? I remember him saying the front because they recognized something she was wearing. I need my ears cleaned out.
     
  4. Knox

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    DBM, already clarified.
     
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    I understand about the "charges" vs "arrests." My misunderstanding. However, IF there was someone in that car other than HB, baby and MF, I'm guessing there would be at least one more arrest. We'll have to wait and see if there's any truth to that.
     
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    And those accusations and others' gossip were then picked up by other websites and printed for all to see and repeated as though they were facts. Disgusting and irresponsible of everyone involved. It becomes circular in that people can claim they heard it/saw it/read it on several different sources.
     
  7. missy1974

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    I clicked the link, thank you! I just watched his Dad, and I'm in tears. Anyone that still has doubts about Shane should listen to it, his Dad said he has been so strong, and he told them everything, told everyone to tell them everything, he didn't care, he knew it was the only way to find Heidi and Margo because he didn't do it. His Dad seemed to understand what usually happens in these cases and had lawyers ready but Shane didn't want them.

    It seems like he wasn't sure about the DNA and they were told that Margo coming home didn't depend on it. Legally, I wonder if this is because of something he had signed previously or whatever. I really don't care, that little baby is home where she belongs and is a little light in a very dark time for that family IMO

    Can anyone direct me to the new photo's of her please :) I will watch my inbox! ;)
     
  8. Mariposa

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  9. NanKelley

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    No, not Federal crime. Murders are almost always state crimes unless committed in special circumstances. I suppose LE could be investigating any evidence of a murder for hire or sexual exploitation of a child case, but that would just complicate a seemingly obvious capital murder case. MOO

    Here are 10 such circumstances in which a killing could be charged as a federal crime

    1. Murder of an Elected/Appointed Federal Official (18 U.S.C. Section 351, 1751)
    2. Murder of a Federal Judge or Law Enforcement Official (18 U.S.C. Section 1114)
    3. Killing of an Immediate Family Member of Law Enforcement Officials (18 U.S.C. Section 115(b)(3))
    4. A Killing Designed to Influence the Outcome of a Court Case (18 U.S.C. Section 1512)
    5. A Killing Committed During Bank Robbery (18 U.S.C. Section 1111)
    6. Murder Related to Rape, Child Molestation, and Sexual Exploitation of Children (18 U.S.C. Section 2248, 2251)
    7. Murder Aboard a Ship (18 U.S.C. Section 2280)

    8. Drug-Related Murders (18 U.S.C. Section 36, 924(i))
    9. Murder for Hire (18 U.S.C. Section 1958)
    10. Murder by Mail (18 U.S.C. Section 1716)

     
  10. Seattle1

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    I recall a video newscast last Saturday citing that no murder charges had been filed yet because authorities still had not determined where HB was murdered.

    Also stated they were likely waiting on more details and evidence to determine whether or not to charge as capital murder.

    Considering how authorities won't even officially identify MF is the suspect in jail, I think they must have a reason for delaying the murder charge.

    I'm happy to wait -- MF's not going anywhere.
     
  11. NanKelley

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    It's at 27:44 in Shane's best friend's interview
     
  14. Lillymac

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    Kidnapping is usually federal.
    Case of Brendt Christensen, murdered Ying Ying Zhang, Illinois.. Federal DP case. a car and a mobile phone were used to invoke interstate commerce and That was all the rationale they needed.
    A murder committed in the act of a kidnapping/as a result of a kidnapping/
     
  16. BeckyF

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    I agree. It is absolutely horrible. As Lady Gaga said once, social media is the toilet of the internet. People don't even care what they say to perfect strangers. So glad we have rules here.
     
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    Very true. I hope no one posts bond for her.
     
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    I wish I could give this some sort of trophy or standing ovation.
     
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    Kidnapping is a serious felony, but only becomes a federal crime if state lines are crossed, I believe. You’re correct about the capital murder. Any death that occurs in the commission of a felony can be tried as capital murder. I think the hold up is researching the case to decide just what charges they feel they can successfully prosecute. No rush.
    Kidnapping - FindLaw
     
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