HI HI - Amanda Eller, 35, Trail near Makawao, Maui, 8 May 2019

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  1. Momof4RN

    Momof4RN Well-Known Member

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    I know LE said they were processing her car. Does anyone have any idea how long it would take to get results of someone else’s dna or fingerprints from back seat if there was a random person there at any point during the day?
     
  2. book-thinker

    book-thinker Well-Known Member

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    Reason I’m asking, she seems like a good person and would pickup someone
    hitchhiking. Not realizing he preys on females.
    Interested to know how many
    people live off the radar on this this island.
     
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  3. R.bread

    R.bread Active Member

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    Hitchhiking between haiku/huelo and paia is very common for people living in those areas. The bus route just runs along the main rd(hana hwy) and ends at haiku community center so many bus commuters have to walk/hitch the rest of their way home. Not suggesting that's what happened, just that hitchhiking is common on maui.
     
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  4. kay74

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    What I meant is, if this scruffy guy seen in the white van or anyone saw her wallet, felt for the key under her car, got some money out and locked the car back up, his DNA would be on the wallet. Someone said they thought he was casing the parking lot before this happened. Easy way for him to get some money especially since she left the wallet out for everyone to see.
     
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  5. Momof4RN

    Momof4RN Well-Known Member

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    I’d have to go back over LE statement again. I know it was said she paid for her stuff at market with cash. I know LE said her credit cards and ID were in her wallet. Not sure if they mentioned any additional cash.
     
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  6. Alohaj

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    I don’t think people that live here would necessarily agree with you, I know I don’t.

    Of the 10 on the map the poster provided (which was awesome by the way), only 1 has had any remains found (and those were partial, without going into details), and only 1 conviction. And the finding of those body parts was in large part, IMO opinion, because of a phone app the deceased had that shares your location with people you’ve connected on the app to (Life 360 app), so they knew what general area to look.

    Some personal belongings of another were found, and she was the only one not last seen in either “upcountry” (That’s what We on Maui call Kula, Makawao, Olinda, Haiku area) or Hana Area. Why so many in those areas? They are remote, there’s lots of jungle, and they are much more likely to never have somebody be found.

    Additionally, there’s not much publicized about the people who disappear that are homeless, Or have no family or friends to report the missing. In our local newspaper, there are periodically notices that there are anywhere from 5 to 10 unidentified and/or unclaimed bodies held at the morgue. Some they have identified, and have a list of their names, and some are John or Jane Does. The other day there was a notice with five of them, with their height, age or approximate age, Eye color, any other distinguishing things (like tattoos) unless the body was too decomposed, which had been listed on a few of them the other day. The articles will also include a date at which the bodies will be disposed of (cremated) if they are not claimed. I’ve seen these notices many times.
     
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  7. Satchie

    Satchie Well-Known Member

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    I'd be likely to lock my purse on the floor of my car, but I'd never pick up a single male hitchhiker to take with me to a quiet trailhead. Everybody's different.
     
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  8. otto

    otto Verified Expert

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    If she finished her shopping at roughly 10:30 and it's a 20 minute drive to the trail, it's possible that she arrived at 11AM. If a white van was seen at the park at 12:15, and no one saw her on the trails, doesn't that mean that if something happened at the moment that she arrived, then the white van had nothing to do with her disappearance?
     
  9. Alohaj

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    So agree
     
  10. AzPistonsGirl

    AzPistonsGirl Detroit to the Bone

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    BBM: Just because a white van may have been seen at that time, doesn't rule out it being their prior or after IMO.
     
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    She also went to the post office which, I believe, was after shopping. That would put her at the trail later.
     
  12. Alohaj

    Alohaj Well-Known Member

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    My daughter hikes that forest regularly because she lives in the area, and has never hiked it without seeing at least one other person.
     
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    iluvmua Well-Known Member

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    Correct. Shopping, then PO
     
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  14. Alohaj

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    My phone alarm just went off to remind myself to make a lei today for my grandson’s music performance tonight. So I don’t find it odd either, I put all kinds of things in my phone calendar and alarm so I don’t forget
     
  15. borndem

    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    Agree with all of your post, mikey -- I don't know her BF, and we're seeing him under strange and possibly very sad circumstances, but his affect seems off -- but mine would be too, I'm sure. Unsettling.
    No water -- it doesn't weigh much, it's not uncomfortable -- always, always -- you never know when you or someone else might be struggling and need a drink. Some other hiker might have dropped his/hers or drunk all of it and is in bad shape. Same with phone -- there could be a family emergency, or one on the path you're taking, or you could be the emergency.
    It's just odd, isn't it?

    And another thing,

    Welcome to Websleuths,
    mikeymagee !!
     
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  16. Curiousobserver

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    Depends on the queue in the lab. The actual time to perform the test is roughly 3 hours if the sample is easy to prep (hair or saliva etc...). What takes so long is getting it to the lab, identifying what is a sample, and getting in line with all the other samples.
     
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    I admit to kind of getting lost in DNA conversations. I know it's a hot topic because many cold cases are being solved because of it and convictions happen based on it. But I also don't think it works like many people think it does (I blame tv :))

    If my wallet was swabbed (fingerprints), you of course would find mine, and that of a few family members. But you would also potentially find the woman at Target who scanned the wallet that I purchased, along with the very nice man who picked my wallet up when I dropped it going through the checkout line. The inside of my car would have loved ones and friends, along with the man who drove my car for a maintenance check last week.

    Now, if you looked in my car and found traces of blood or other bodily fluids, now we're talking about something different. All my opinion.
     
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    borndem Anglophile & registered demwit

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    otto Verified Expert

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    She finished her shopping and post-office errands by 10:30.
     
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    otto Verified Expert

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    Without an identified suspect, DNA is useless.
     
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