Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #3 ***ARREST***

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  1. Mr. Noatak

    Mr. Noatak New Member

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    My opinions only, no facts here:

    As I stated in my timeline: "A lot of people may be talking at this point or later-on, but who is telling the whole truth?"
     


  2. MissUnderstood

    MissUnderstood Well-Known Member

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    A situation where Holly was used to scare someone into paying owed money or complying to do something was my thought!! Then it became out of hand. My opinion only, and there really is no excuse for what happened even if it started out as something else!!!


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  3. Suthrnqt

    Suthrnqt Verified Luddite

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    ITA. And that's the rub. These career criminals are a stranger to the truth. jmo
     
  4. honesty

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    The trucks this article is about are local mules. The ones that may would have picked her up are not in the same group as the ones in the article think livestock.
     
  5. Foxfire

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    "The Sketch of the stalker from the coon hunter was completed a few weeks after HB's abduction, Why wasn't it released to the public by the TBI"?

    Holly Bobo friend describes Man in Camo @ Coon Hunt..
    http://www.wsmv.com/story/25397291/bobo-friend-describes-man-in-camouflage-at-coon-hunt


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  6. ThoughtFox

    ThoughtFox Expecting the Unexpected

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    With an indigent suspect in Criminal Court the judge will appoint a defense attorney, which is not the same thing as using a public defender, who are assigned to less important cases at a Sessions Court level. The state will pay the fee at the going rate, as someone else said.

    For the record, about the Coon Hunt:

    No one here is knowingly spreading misinformation about it. No one ever said Holly wasn't there, but that the details were debunked by the family spokesperson. Here's the post I wrote about it yesterday with the video of the spokesperson talking about the Coon Hunt:
    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Holly Bobo, still missing from TN, *ARREST* 2014 discussion #3


    The original story said that Holly "sang" at the Coon Hunt and that drew attention to her. Now her friend Candace says they were just there with their dates and a guy was looking them up and down. I'm glad she's finally talking about it.
    http://www.wsmv.com/story/25397291/bobo-friend-describes-man-in-camouflage-at-raccoon-hunt


    But that's different from the original story that was all over the internet from her other friend Danielle.

    The family spokesperson said she did not sing at that Coon Hunt.

    The original story said that Holly's mother confronted Zach and others.

    The family spokesperson said the mother was not there.

    No one ever said that Holly wasn't at the Coon Hunt. Only that she didn't sing and her mother wasn't there.

    Why the family and everyone else held back details for so long while all this misinformation was spread around is a mystery. Maybe TBI wanted to bring down these indictments before they talked about it.

    Rumors really are unverified before they are verified. If we believe every rumor we hear it doesn't really help to get to the truth of the matter.
     
  7. ThoughtFox

    ThoughtFox Expecting the Unexpected

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    One more thing - why would it be strange for someone to be in "head-to-toe camouflage" at a Coon Hunt? :waitasec:

    I think the important thing about Shayne Austin was that he was staring at them and talking into his phone, not what he was wearing.
     
  8. oceanblueeyes

    oceanblueeyes Well-Known Member

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    If that were the case then there would be phone calls made making demands when she was first kidnapped.

    Who in the Bobo family would owe money to the A-Train? In three years no one has ever said any of the Bobo family members even associated with these creeps.
     
  9. oceanblueeyes

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    I think you are right TF, although I saw pictures from the coon hunt, and plenty weren't dressed in camo. It wasn't the coon hunt itself they were at, but from what I gather it was the dinner, and perhaps a dance afterwards.

    She only described what he was wearing as an add-on.

    You are correct though, it seems whoever this person was....was already beginning to stalk Holly prior to taking her. And he may have even taken a photo of Holly and her friend together with his phone and sent it back to whoever he was on the phone with.

    Chilling no doubt.
     
  10. oceanblueeyes

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    And I think another part of the rumor that is wrong is that Zack was even there. I think Candace would remember seeing either Zach or Big Dude Autry there. So I think it may have been Austin who was the only one of the 'gang' who was there ....maybe stalking women that the A-train may have wanted to take later on. Maybe he was sent out as the 'spotter,'

    Since the coon hunt is such a big event in that area what better way to mingle and spot a pretty girl to target? :(

    I had already mentioned earlier when some of these sexual predators kidnap their victims they stalk the victim for days before actually kidnapping them.

    IMO
     
  11. shefner

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    I'm anxious this morning....ready for that other arrest to happen. And thinking there might be another or two.
    They have several witnesses that have sworn affidavits that Holly was seen after her death. Who are these people?
     
  12. Foxfire

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    ThoughtFox, it is not an actual Coon Hunt, but more of a festival & coon dog competition. I attended the Coon Hunt in 2012. Most of the folks in attendance are dressed in casual attire; TShirts & jeans, etc; https://www.google.com/search?q=coo...a=X&ei=UTRiU9izD8LjsASP94LADg&ved=0CFYQ9QEwBg

    Although, it would not be unusual for someone to wear full camo to the Coon Hunt Festival Charity Event, few actually do. Imo, the friend's red flags/hinky meter were set off on the day of the coon hunt due to the stalking/starring incident, but were likely ignored as just an overreaction. Four days later when the description of HB's abductor was released wearing full camo. The combination of the two allowed her friend to connect the dots..jmo

    Footnote: The attendance @ the 2012 Decatur County Coon Hunt was way off... The DC Coon Hunt is billed as the largest in the world..
     
  13. oceanblueeyes

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    Most cases have the same problems when the suspects are the scum of the earth like we have here in this case. The witnesses who testify against them are usually criminals themselves or have a lot of baggage of their own. One reason they may not have told what really happened for so long may have been to protect themselves. In cases like this you just don't get many Mr. Rogers or Mother Theresa types who testify. When anyone hangs around with dogs who have fleas they too will have fleas. I think jurors understand that.

    However; through the years I have seen many witnesses like this testify in trials, and must admit their testimony was vital in getting a conviction. What usually happens with the testimony of these kind of witnesses the DA will have supporting evidence to back up their testimonies. In the cases that I have kept up with the jury does tend to believe witnesses like we are going to see in this trial.

    Also it seems numerous people are talking with LE now and maybe even more will speak with LE before the trials commence. While one or two may be lying, if they are given some kind of deal to testify, it will be hard pressed for the jury to believe that ALL are lying. The truth/credibility grows in numbers sometimes and gets weightier and weightier as it is compounded.

    The ones who will testify will have told LE things before they went in do to the extensive search warrants at various location and LE found that supporting evidence. Meaning they had to be telling the truth beforehand to even be able to tell the TBI/FBI where to look for certain items. So the witnesses they will use will be those who have backup evidence to support what they have said.
    JMO
     
  14. oceanblueeyes

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    It just shows the Bobo family and Holly's friends were doing everything possible to help find out who took Holly ...........only for the police to not even put the composite sketch out.:mad: Unforgivable! The sketch looks just like Austin to me, and I don't even live in that community.

    No wonder there has been so much friction between the Bobo family and the police. :banghead:

    Did you see the photo of Karen sitting in the courtroom when Autry was inside? OMG if looks could kill the big buffoon would have died right there.

    IMO
     
  15. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, Firimar !

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    A couple of things jump out at me as I re-read this morning:

    1. ZA saying, "I'm not the one."
    2. JA saying, " Hand to god, I'm innocent."
    3. The composite sketch of the camo man Holly's friend saw at the coon hunt dinner. It's clearly SA.
    4. SA was offered immunity in exchange for his help on the case, and then the prosecution rescinded the offer, stating he broke the terms of the agreement by not being completely honest.

    If CB's description of the abductor is accurate, then it couldn't have been JA. Also doubtful it was ZA, based on physicality. That leaves either SA, or someone we haven't yet heard of. My guess is that it WAS SA. That puts him square in the middle of things.

    Physical evidence, along with the testimony of DA, puts Holly in ZA home. That puts ZA square in the middle of things.

    So....where the heck does JA fit in? And do his statements, along with ZA's statements, mean the 2 plan on shoving SA under the bus? Is it possible SA actually did the deed and ZA and JA helped him cover it up? You could almost believe that JA would help his brother out of a mess...but ZA?! Not seeing that at all.

    Anyway, just thinking out loud this morning. Carry on.
     
  16. oceanblueeyes

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    Square in the middle of things too. Right in Adams' home brutalizing Holly along with the others.

    It makes sense to me if Dylan found the courage to rat his own brother out he is going to roll on all of them. That may be why Austin's immunity deal has been rescinded as well.

    If I had a dollar for every time I have heard a guilty suspect say they aren't 'the one" I could go on a mini-vaca!:floorlaugh: They were all 'the one.' IMO

    IMO
     
  17. oceanblueeyes

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    He must be left-handed! :jail:
     
  18. oceanblueeyes

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    And there is a lot of confusion about the actual relationship of Autry, Austin, and the Bobos anyway.

    I do believe the article linked stating Autry was a first cousin is totally false. No where have I read that to be true. I have heard that Austin is a second cousin but then last night 'over there' they said they were step-cousins due to a remarriage in the family.

    Whatever the relationship is I do not believe any of the Bobos ever associated with any of this creepy characters.

    I have second cousins I never see even though they live in the same county as I do.

    IMO
     
  19. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, Firimar !

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    Sure, but that wasn't my point. I was simply pondering what they said, and why they might have said it. :)
     
  20. shefner

    shefner Member Since 2008

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    :floorlaugh: Gotta be the post of the day!
     
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