Holly Bobo, missing from TN 2014 discussion #3 ***ARREST***

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  1. x_files

    x_files Well-Known Member

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    When there's stress people tend to NOT remember details very well.
    There's studies on eye witnesses in criminal cases due to stress we forgot or remember in correctly.
     


  2. Foxfire

    Foxfire New Member

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    IHAVENOCLUE, if the stalking tip had been prioritized and followed up on by investigators in a timely manner, and the sketch released to the public. All of the above could have likely been retrieved. Why would investigators prepare a sketch and then decide not to share it via ms media? Combined with the enormous 6 figure Reward in HB's case. Folks would have been tripping over each other to provide info & tips, imo. I doubt that there is an LEO, correction officer, or Judge in the three county area that would not have immediately recognized the sketch...jmo


    TWO MONTHS WRAP UP HOLLY BOBO INVESTIGATION REMAINS HIGH PRIORITY
    http://www.examiner.com/article/hol...h-wrap-up-investigation-remains-high-priority
     
  3. shefner

    shefner Member Since 2008

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    If one of the these danged A-people gets a plea, something will the fan. I might explode from a heart-attack! They don't make enough Butterfingers to help me then! By golly, if we've got multiple witnesses who saw Holly with these guys, then there should be no plea deal. ZIP, NADDA, NONE!
     
  4. Carla Lashelle

    Carla Lashelle New Member

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    The witnesses just happen to be suspects. I suppose, in this case, its similar to, say, three guys that rob a liquor store and kill the clerk inside. All three can be charged with murder but, perhaps, the driver who did not actually shoot anyone, gets a deal to rat on the gunman.
     
  5. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    BBM: Exactly, Foxfire ! The A Bunch is no stranger to LE and the criminal court system.

    :seeya:
     
  6. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    BBM:

    :seeya: Just jumping off your post, shefner :

    :twocents: I did not like the Judge even mentioning a "plea deal" in open court yesterday ... he said that he was going to set deadlines, which include a "plea deal" deadline ... Nope !

    I hope they get NO deals ... let them rot :jail: for what they did to Holly !

    :moo:
     
  7. jggordo

    jggordo Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe I have ever heard an invitation for a "plea deal" directly from the bench before. Of course I have known about attorneys and LE making offers for their "recommendation" to the court of such an offer, but never directly from a Judge. And the way he threw it right out there, almost as standard it is no wonder the way Zach's arrest and conviction rate reads the way it does.

    JMO's
     
  8. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    BBM: Exactly !

    :seeya: I totally agree !
     
  9. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    Here's some info on Judge McGinley from tncourts.gov :


    Year Elected/Appointed

    1988


    Prior Judicial Experience

    Assistant District Attorney General, 1982-1988


    More at link: http://www.tncourts.gov/courts/circuit-criminal-chancery-courts/judges/charles-creed-mcginley


    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    From judgepedia:

    Charles Creed McGinley is a judge for the Twenty Fourth Circuit Court in Tennessee. He has served in this position since 1988. In 2006, he was re-elected without opposition to his current eight year term, which ends in 2014.


    More at link: http://judgepedia.org/Charles_Creed_McGinley
     
  10. jggordo

    jggordo Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone know if he is running for re-election and if he is running unopposed again?
     
  11. Carla Lashelle

    Carla Lashelle New Member

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    Like it or not plea deals have nothing to do with what the victim's family or the general public may desire. They are not done to get people off. Its like life in prison versus death. In some cases if the suspect says where a body is, he gets the DP taken off the table. That is what happened in the cases of Chelsea King and Amber Duboise. The killer confessed to a second, unsolved (and unlinked) murder and led LE to the body in order to spare himself from death.They are also done to avoid a trial for a variety of reasons - cost, possibility of losing, etc.
     
  12. ThoughtFox

    ThoughtFox Expecting the Unexpected

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    Yeah, I get it, and I saw that everyone there was dressed casually in jeans and t-shirts ballcaps, but it is about a raccoon hunt, so I just think the camo alone wasn't the strange part about the guy.

    When Clint saw the guy in camo on the day she was abducted, he thought it was Holly's boyfriend, who indeed was hunting somewhere else and probably wearing camo. That in itself isn't a sign that someone is up to no good. JMOO
     
  13. jggordo

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    I realize all the reasons for plea deals. I get that, and got it a long time ago. There are appropriate times for it's use, IMO. But for a JUDGE to throw out that opportunity, much less deadline or cutoff for it before discovery has even been handed over does not seem appropriate. He did not say according to TN law, it was that's the way I do things in my court.

    I am in no way suggesting that this Judge can not be impartial to rule in this case. I am simply saying in my opinion, this particular Judge has been involved in several (too many) prior plea deals for these defendants. I believe when (if) the case is resolved that fact may give credence to an appeal down the road and could be, and should be avoided.

    If Holly were my daughter I would be asking the Attorney General for a different Judge for those reasons. And if I were the Judge and had ruled on these defendants for even a fraction of their collective 40+ convictions and charges I would not be able to look the Bobo family directly in the eyes for the duration of this trial.

    Just my opinions, and nothing personal against the Judge.
     
  14. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    BBM. It may depend on the state, but when my brother and his wife were murdered, we, as a family,had EVERYTHING to do with how the prosecution proceeded with my brothers case.
     
  15. jggordo

    jggordo Well-Known Member

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    I haven't been checking here regularly so excuse me if I'm rehashing something you guys have already figured out :) Wasn't there a concern when ZA was arrested that he posted on FB right around the time of the abduction? Do you think these guys are smart enough that they had ZA abduct holly and were anticipating maybe him being recognized, so he left his cell at home, or had someone get onto his computer at home, to post that, thus creating an "alibi", on the chance he was recognized?
     
  17. ~n/t~

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    Ta Da ! The pieces are coming together. Some of you may remember the ongoing discussion regarding Karen. Many of us speculated she knew something was wrong immediately. Well, voila !

    It sickens me to know that Holly could have been saved.
     
  18. goldiegirl

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    I think what she was trying to say is that it struck her LATER after hearing the description of "camo man". It probably wasn't weird to her at the time, but looking back it probably just creeped her out.
     
  19. jggordo

    jggordo Well-Known Member

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    There was a twitter posted regarding an arrest, but turns out to be previous arrest for a DUI. Guess you can't trust everything you read.

    Don't know if this is a "teaser twitter" from a previous arrest at this point or today. I'll be pissed if it is, and it was. But the report does have some content.

    JMO

    https://twitter.com/NC5_NickBeres/status/461972920127197184/photo/1
     
  20. Leader6518

    Leader6518 Well-Known Member

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    I took it as a statement of fact. There is a deadline for a plea deal. THe only reason for a plea deal is because the state doesn't want to go to the expense of a trial OR they want the location of the body. I think that is the only reason the DA offered a deal to SA. They want to bring Holly home if at all possible!

    I don't think they are holding anyone's hand trying to help them help themselves. JMO
     
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