I think my dad was murdered in 2013

Discussion in 'Crimes That Should Be In The News' started by Tibicen, Feb 22, 2020.

  1. jenn83

    jenn83 Well-Known Member

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    My point was that they aren't going to let someone come in and hold the body parts (an eyeball). So I don't believe that part which leads me to not believe the rest either. MOO
     


  2. cherrymeg

    cherrymeg Well-Known Member

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    The body is removed. The police and coroner might quickly decide it's suicide. They might take pictures. Family members cleaned up after my son's uncle killed himself. His fiance kept a piece of his skull she found. It was within a few days of his death that they were cleaning. It was before his funeral. There are services that handle cleanup but it's not usually free. Some people might not want a stranger cleaning away the last traces they have of a family member or loved one. Crime shows don't show what happens to a crime scene once it's processed. Someone has to replace rugs or furniture, clean up, ect.
     
  3. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    Caution! Graphic description:

    I dissected an eyeball in Anatomy and Physics Lab two weeks ago. It was pig eyeball but the anatomical structure is the same as a human eyeball. Unless you know location of a particular nerve, it would be highly unlikely that one could tell whether an eyeball is the left or the right one.

    After a shotgun blast to the face that completely tears the eyeball out of the socket, that little bit of nerve probably would not remain attached.

    An eyeball is fluid filled and easily damaged. Even if the authorities were sloppy enough lo leave an eyeball behind, after more than 24 hours,it would probably look like small, unidentifiable shriveled up piece of bloody flesh.

    Just some facts about eyeballs from my very un-expert point of view.
    MOO
     
  4. ColyH

    ColyH Well-Known Member

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    Just because someone seem to be in good spirits doesn't mean their not suicidal. Years ago I worked at a hotel in Alaska and there was guy who also worked there and everyone just loved him. He was always smiling, telling jokes, and was always in a good mood. One day he didn't show up for work and by the next day no one had seen him. The park rangers went inside his room and found some disturbing stuff like a diary with entries about him thinking what it would be like to die and thoughts of killing himself. Fortunately, they found him before he could hurt himself and he got help. It's possible your father had issues you were not aware of and took his life due to those issues.
     
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    Lilibet Watching & Waiting

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    @Tibicen, I’m really sorry about your loss and congratulate you on your sobriety. One thing no one has mentioned is that if you proceed with talking to the D.A., etc. you will need to make very sure that you have protected yourself from this creature. If/when she finds out, I can’t imagine that she wouldn’t try to hurt you. In a way, it’s like an abused spouse is in the most danger when she/he is about to leave. So if she killed your Dad, she will be furious that you are trying to reopen this case. I don’t say this to discourage you, but just take precautions if you pursue this. And just so you know, a restraining order is pretty useless and buying a gun won’t end well. So think this through very carefully, gather the information you need in a coherent form for the D.A., take someone with you, and be sure to have a safe-house lined up to stay in. Above all, protect your sobriety. This creature isn’t worth losing it in order to bring her to justice.

    And I am curious why she is staying in a house that is yours. Or is your grandma still alive?
     
  6. cherrymeg

    cherrymeg Well-Known Member

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    A restraining order could remove her from the house. Also packing her stuff up and changing the locks might work.
     
  7. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching & Waiting

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    It might. And it also might escalate the situation dangerously. I’m basing that on Gavin de Becker’s excellent book “The Gift of Fear.” I highly recommend it. He points out that a restraining order does not prevent someone from violating it and doing harm, and in fact, can enrage the person. So it can’t be viewed as a protection IMO. I think @Tibicen needs to proceed very cautiously and have professional advice, as well as taking steps to protect her safety personally.
    JMO

    I don’t want to discount her experience at all, but others have noted the dramatic narrative and doubted it. One thing that de Becker says is a tip-off that someone is lying is that they offer too much unnecessary detail in their story. @Tibicen may just have a natural flair for writing in a dramatic way, but much of the detail could have been left out and we’d still understand what happened. I will give her the benefit of the doubt and see what happens.
    JMO
     
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  8. JudgeJoe

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    Following & always hoping justice prevails. @Tibicen, did you perchance photograph the room where your dad died? I realize that would have been the absolute last thing on your mind, but could help a coroner review the circumstances. Just a thought.
     
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    bykerladi Well-Known Member

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    Last log in for Tibicen was February 26. Is anyone able to contact her?
     
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    cpeacock1 Well-Known Member

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    @jenn83 family friend had to deal with this after suicide. Actually the family and friends did clean up. All of it. Maybe different scenario in other states.
     
  11. cherrymeg

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    Hopefully she is okay. It's possible she took a break from the site to deal with other things. If she is living with her aunt that's a little scary.
     
  12. floridamomma

    floridamomma Well-Known Member

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    If this is fake, shame, shame, shame. I won't go into my thoughts regarding that.

    If true, I'd confront dear auntie and record the conversation.
     
  13. AliceInPain

    AliceInPain Well-Known Member

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    I did some snooping a while back and the details about her dad I could find are true.
    I hope she is okay too.
     
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    I recently launched a podcast on true crime and would be interested in profiling your unsolved case, I’m a former law enforcement officer from Kansas and now live in Virginia! Email me @ trlrunscold@gmail.com getting this out there in the public eye, putting pressure on the authorities might be what is needed to get resolve!
     
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    Hope this podcast can help @Tibicen !

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    Just writing and posting this, must surely bring back the pain of het experience. I hope that Robyn is okay.....sending well wishes to her.
     
  17. Angleterre

    Angleterre Verified Law Enforcement England

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    I have a lot of personal and professional experiences of suicide and the people who commit suicide and their behaviour beforehand
    If you want to discuss further then pls PM and I will gladly discuss this part of the case outlined with you
    I am also retired LE in UK so I would have some questions that you need to ask for answers to in relation to the crime scene in order to consider taking this forward
    In the meantime I wish you well and hope that get through x
     
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  18. Madeline91

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    That situation sounds very sketchy , I would go to the district attorney and Express your concerns , you can message me if you'd like I'll help the best I can..
     
  19. rickcross

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    Money is a great motivator. There are many family members that become jackals after the death of someone close. That doesn't make them a murderer. Not saying the aunt wasn't involved, just that I haven't seen anything that leads me to believe that. Given the amount of time that has passed, it is going to be pretty much impossible to get the police involved. If you want to get to the bottom of this, its going to be through your own efforts. That means hiring a PI, and that means a lot of money.
     
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  20. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    how do you know the dog tore at your Dad's shirt trying to wake him if your Dad was unconscious?
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2020 at 10:35 AM
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