I just want to add a few of my thoughts here, my opinions. I may be wrong, but I don't think Klunder is involved with the abduction and murder of Lyric and Elizabeth. How he carried out his abductions seems to me, for lack of a better description, like the proverbial bull in the china shop. Whoever stole Elizabeth and Lyric was a thief in the night kind of person in carrying out the crimes. I've always thought the perp is someone who the girls knew more than just as a casual acquaintance. My personal theory for motive is that these girls knew something damaging about this person(s) and were silenced before they could tell it. I know no facts to back this opinion up. I think the person is well-known to a family member, but have no idea which one it could be. I think the family member doesn't know this and would be totally shocked to find out. I hope LE has looked closely at the adults who interact with children in a group type setting. I also think it possible that if this turned out to be this way, that Elizabeth and Lyric might not have been aware even of the magnitude of their knowledge.