IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #38

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  1. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Patrick Richard Burt

    UPDATE: Bond set at $1.5 M in 2015 trail attack

    Formerly lived in Waterloo and Cedar Falls, sounds like his parents live in Cedar Falls. If my arithmetic's right, he would have been 17 in 2012.

    I've seen that mug shot somewhere before.
     


  2. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    I think this is what I was thinking of. Not sure it's really close or just two similar young guys from the same general gene pool.
     

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  4. Falling Down

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    Interesting a DNA swab led to his capture.
     
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    PezCandy With brave wings she flys

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    Oh wow, the similarities between his mug and BG sketch, the hair is throwing me off with the comparisons though. Never heard of this guy till today. IMO

    Also, if he was captured by DNA do think that in either L&L or A&L cases a match would have been made already or does it match one person at a time?? I honestly don’t know how that works.
     
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    I wonder why there have been no updates to speak of for PB?
     
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    Media reports say he was 25 when booked in April 2019, possible he was 18 in July of 2012.
     
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    I missed that this was from April--it showed up as a recent article in my news feed. So did he post the $1.5 million? Was there a court appearance? WTF?
     
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    He is still in Black Hawk County Jail.
     
  10. thecatmeows

    thecatmeows Well-Known Member

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    This picture gave me chills. Then I realized I went to high school with Patrick's sister and may have known him at one point. I was in classes with his sister, and I remember her brother being around. I thought he was older, but it's possible he was younger. We graduated in 2010. I often saw the family at the Fareway in Evansdale, so he would be familiar with the area.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Do you remember anything about him?
     
  12. watcher9

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    Was the grocery store where the boys were hanging out called the Fareway? Wasn't that where the girls stopped to ask for directions to the lake?
     
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    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    Wasn't he still in jail from his 2015 crime, when the girls were killed in Delphi?
     
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    thecatmeows Well-Known Member

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    IF he's the kid I remember (I remember two girls and a boy in the family, and the sister's FB page lists him as the only brother, so I'm fairly certain it's him), he was a quiet kid, but polite when spoken to. His parents did enough talking for all of their kids, honestly. I texted my mom to see if she remembers anything - she still lives in the area, and I think she went to high school with his mom. She would talk to his mom and dad often. I remember he was on the bowling team. I plan to see if I can find my senior yearbook when I'm home for Christmas in 2 weeks, because he should have been a sophomore that year. I think the reason I was thinking he was older, honestly, was because he seemed more "mature" in his demeanor than his sister, but looking back, I don't remember him being in school when I started but he was still there when I graduated.

    I hadn't heard the girls stopped and asked for directions to the lake. Sounds like it's a rumor, but possible - I don't think I would have known how to get there by myself at their age; I remember asking my mom for directions on how to get there around their age. This case is all so eerie for me, since I rode my bike the same paths they did when I was growing up.

    I can say with absolute certainty the last time I saw the parents was at Fareway, circa 2013. That's actually the time I was thinking of, because I remember the dad always made me uncomfortable so I wasn't thrilled to see them. I can also say they did not live in Cedar Falls when they were growing up. The kids went to East, so they lived in Evansdale or East Waterloo. My mom might know. It looks like part of the family lives in Colorado now and parts are still in the Waterloo area.

    UPDATE: Apparently, Patrick has a cousin, and he's the kid on the bowling team I was thinking about. I did know Patrick's sister, and she was often seen with her cousin around town. His cousin was also the one on the bowling team. Also, it was Patrick's aunt and uncle who my mom was friends with and I saw at Fareway.
     
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    It doesn't look like he served the full sentence? But I'm not good at researching jails and crimes and stuff...and it seems to be a pretty common name in the area.
     
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    Yes, this was what I was talking about. I thought that was the name of the grocery store but wasn't sure. I do remember doing searches early on around the store to see which path the girls could have taken along that area.

    Thanks for finding this. It also gives me the opportunity to complement you on your sleuthing and posts, not only on this thread but on many other cases too.
    You are a true asset to WS.
     
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    If anyone wants to do some sleuthing, I can verify this is Patrick's step-grandfather. His mother is said to live in Aurora, CO, and his aunt (the one I was referencing) still lives in Waterloo. Jennifer Boose, who would be a step(?) cousin to Patrick, and I can confirm she died of a drug overdose. The whole family is messed up in the drug scheme. Her brother, Joseph Jr., was arrested for murdering his girlfriend's toddler. ((Deputies say Waterloo man confessed manner, motive of murder)
     
  19. carbuff

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    I found a male with the same name who is listed as a sex offender. I'm not sure how he's related though...but he's too old to be the young Patrick who's under arrest.
     
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    thecatmeows Well-Known Member

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    He and his father share the same first & last name. According to his social media, his dad was born in 1970.

    I was reading the thread that talked about the grocery store and bike trail. Growing up in the area, my mom was adamant that I stay off bike trails unless I was with an adult, so I had no idea that the bike trail extended to downtown Evansdale. I was always given directions that kept me on main sidewalks. So, I was envisioning this entire time that they were riding on sidewalks and main roads - I'd pictured that, assuming they were abducted where their bikes were found (it would be difficult to have placed them there without someone noticing, IMO), they had to ride through the park, and I'd long wondered why the heck they would ride back behind the lake since I never would have considered it myself. Assuming someone told them to take the trail (I can't imagine any sensible adult telling them to, but a teenager may have or someone with bad intentions (to corner them?) may have.

    Also, seeing they would have gone past the skate park changes my perspective. My overprotective mother never allowed us to go to it - and a lot of misfits hung out there. I can just see a kid like young PB there, seeing the girls riding along, and who knows what happened. I have a hard time imagining a teen pulling the abduction/murder off on his own, which is why I think if he was involved in any way he had help.
     

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