GUILTY IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, found deceased, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 *Arrest* #51

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  1. JudgeJoe

    JudgeJoe Well-Known Member

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    For those interested in Xavier Harrelson’s missing person case, his WS thread is linked below. Montezuma, IA is about 14 miles SW of Brooklyn- and halfway between Brooklyn, IA (Mollie) and New Sharon, IA (alleged sex trafficking house).

    IA - IA - Xavior Harrelson, 10, Montezuma, 27 May 2021
     


  2. BOSCOE

    BOSCOE Well-Known Member

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    This appears to have been planned well in advance as in before trial and totally scripted to boot including all the court theatrics. IMO two agendas are being driven.

    Inmate visiter logs and phone calls need to be examined. Not knowing another inmate is meaningless to me. There are ways. Just saying.

    When I see pink pigs flying outside my home I may reconsider. MOO
     
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  3. Finlay

    Finlay Former Member

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    I didn't follow Mollie's threads here thru the course of the trial so I'm wondering if someone that did could clear something up for me. I think I've seen comments in recent posts that indicate LE had found a GPS track from one of Mollie's devices that day as she was out for her run. First, is that correct? And second, if so, did that track follow the expected path down the road where CBR had stated that he approached her, and then continue to the location in the cornfield where he led authorities to her body? And was it an uninterrupted course which did not include a layover at a trap house? ...if so, I would think that would kill this whole line of BS the defense is trying to scrape together.
     
  4. Weki

    Weki Well-Known Member

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    In a nutshell. This kinda gamesmanship is what IMO makes the justice system seem farcical. I remember watching a South African case where a judge was hearing the trial and would decide on a verdict. And this judge so thoroughly dismissed an expert witness’ intended testimony off hand for irrelevance. She basically told the witness she had no business testifying in that regard. It was a beautiful sight to behold after watching g so many American trials where defense gets away with so much nonsense and wastes everyone’s time!! It is really ludicrous that this judge even allowed this hearing. He could’ve made this a written ruling DENIED based on their motion. Why do they even need a full day hearing for their motion for a new trial??

    Again, just more stalling tactics and wasting the taxpayers money and everyone’s time!!! To what end! He LED POLICE TO THE BODY!! He did it! The phantom men pulled a gun on me and made me do it story is so tired! Even Jodi Arias said that!
     
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    Emi Well-Known Member

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  6. rebel123

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    A 'sex trafficking' ring, by definition is to keep the workers alive, if they went around killing them, there wouldn't be a 'sex trafficking' ring.
     
  7. gregjrichards

    gregjrichards Well-Known Member

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    I’m so sorry Mollie’s loved ones are having to face this additional anguish and stress. I can’t imagine what they have gone through and continue to go through. My thoughts and prayers continue to be with them.

    Thank you to all of you for your news updates and posts they are very helpful in understanding the situation.
     
  8. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    I think it would be a greater risk to let them go. Why leave a victim alive who can identify them?
     
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  9. ilovewings

    ilovewings Well-Known Member

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    Our court system is so easily exploited. Defense tactics make me puke. In some cases the defense has dragged cases out for years and years and they get away with it. It is pitiful.
     
  10. JudgeJoe

    JudgeJoe Well-Known Member

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    Judge Joel Yates tentatively scheduled 2nd hearing July 27 on defense motion for a new trial. But may rule today on defense request to compel LE to review evidence of alleged sex trafficking & search for missing 11-year-old boy, Xavier Harrelson.

    Of note: neither sweatered ninja- Gavin Jones or James Lowe- has a name that sounds particularly like “Jack”. Remember when CBR said a masked abductor said “Come back, Jack” during the crime? I wonder how prosecution plans to spin that part into the new web. Jones, James, Jack?

    CBR also testified, "One of them was bigger and a little bit fatter. The other one was about my stature." Does this match Jones & James?

    Prosecutor calls request for new trial by Mollie Tibbetts killer a 'fishing expedition'

    Defendant says Mollie Tibbetts was killed by 2 masked mystery men, in stunning claim
     
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  11. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    The real issue for me, is how much does this cost? At what point in time can anyone draw a line in the sand, done? Granted, there have been errors in the past. But with DNA, electronic equipment, cameras, it is getting to be very few.

    The problem I have seen, is that now CBR can continue his "poor me" mantra, with a thinly veiled layer of "it is really racism". Somehow, dragging identity politics into the mix. This entire situation is bigger than CBR. Someone wants to make CBR a "victim". As if he is going to be a "poster" for what happens to a young undocumented, Hispanic, in Iowa, wrongly accused of a crime, framed, and now, in jail.

    Oh, did we forget about the actual "Victim"? Mollie Tibbets? A young woman who thought it was safe to go running?
     
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    I've seen conflicting reports about which two men were involved in the actually killing in the supposed Jones story. Clearly, Jones was one of them, but was the other Lowe, or the guy who didn't speak English very well, or another unnamed guy?

    Even if Jones really did tell Maki this story (and I do understand it's only a hearsay story until it can be corroborated), Maki was relaying it secondhand, and nearly 7 months after it was originally told to him in November 2020. There would likely be inaccuracies in what Maki said.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    re bold - I believe you meant to type defense - ??
     
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  14. rebel123

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    I presume there are tens of thousands of 'sex trafficked workers' in the US, I'm sure they can identify their captors, I'm not seeing tens of thousands of deaths reported.
     
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    I'm sure Maki can accurately remember what was told to him, after all 'the human brain has a capacity that is ten times greater than first thought and can retain 4.7 billion books, scientists have discovered. This is according to US scientists who have measured the storage capacity of synapses - the brain connections that are responsible for storing memories.'

    The fact that Voss has also been told something similar is interesting.
     
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  16. ilovewings

    ilovewings Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, and often, the victim gets forgotten while the perp/defendant takes center stage.
     
  17. Finlay

    Finlay Former Member

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    Considering that both reporting parties got their info from the exact same source (Jones), I'm not at all surprised that their info is similar. That just tells me that Jones was trying to use the same story to make himself look like a big shot in jail as he was to try to intimidate his girlfriend.
     
  18. PrairieWind

    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    I think that is exactly what happened. I assume law enforcement has spoke directly to Jones and he denies it.
     
  19. rebel123

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    I mentioned that yesterday before the hearing, 'bragging to intimidate'.

    Maki was at the court yesterday, would the Judge of spoken to him? (maybe to check the veracity of his claims) If not, what was the point?
     
  20. PrairieWind

    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    The defense counsel ordered that Maki be made present. But I don't know why. That was not an evidentiary hearing. So I assume that was just grandstanding. The judge isn't going to talk to him outside of open court.
     

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