Discussion in 'Recently Sentenced and Beyond' started by cybervampira, Jul 20, 2018.
Excerpts from pros opening statements:
Shortly before eight p.m. that night Christina Stewart was traveling to her parents farm to tend the horses, and she passed molly on that road. Christina Stewart had known molly since molly was a small child and Christine Stewart was a hair stylist in town. She'd cut molly's hair. She recognized molly, and aside from mali's killer, Christina Stewart was the last person to see molly alive molly didn't show up for work the next day
SO NOW WE KNOW SHE WASNT IN THE TRAP HOUSE BEFORE THE ABDUCTION
Deputy Kivi says the search for #MollieTibbetts was guided by some of her cell phone data. Involved doing door to door to farmhouses in that rural area in the SE part of Poweshiek County.@wqad
8:55 AM · May 20, 2021·Twitter Web App
Mollie's cellphone information led them to focus efforts in the southeastern part of the county. FBI analyst found that was the last location of her phone.
8:54 AM · May 20, 2021·Twitter Web App
Shannon Moudy on Twitter
Deputy Kivi says they got security video from several homes. "The one that was most useful to us came from 616 West Des Moines Street." That's the home of Logan Collins.
8:56 AM · May 20, 2021·Twitter Web App
Says southeast part of county was were #MollieTibbetts phone "powered off or the last known location of the phone.
Kivi says he wrote search warrants for Google locations, CBR's trailer, a Nissan Altima involved. 8 or 9 in total.
11:40 AM · May 20, 2021
Clarifying an earlier tweet with a typo... Agent Riessen says from the time the runner went by until 8:07, there were 14 vehicles seen on the camera. 6 were the Malibu.
[This^^^ is about surveillance footage]
Romero says CBR volunteered that car in surveillance video was his vehicle.
Romero says CBR identified the person running in the surveillance video as "she" - despite the fact that the gender of the runner is unidentifiable in the surveillance video.
Romero says CBR said he saw the runner three times-- says she even waved at him. He claimed he was trying to find his way around town.
Romero says CBR told her he lost track of her. CBR had said he was going to his uncle's house to pick up a vacuum cleaner, she says.
"I asked him what he thought of the female runner." "His answer was 'I found her attractive.'" Says he ID'ed her clothing/armband. "He stated at one point that he thought that she was hot."
During a break, Cristhian Bahena Rivera was placed into custody, Romero testifies. Says they left office and went to CBR's residence near farm.
"Did you proceed to a rural area in far-eastern Poweshiek County?" "We landed in a cornfield." Romero says. 2478 460th Ave SE of Guernsey. Location of #MollieTibbetts' body.
"What did you find?" "#MollieTibbetts' body." Romero talks about reading CBR Miranda warnings after arriving at cornfield.
"There's something rotten in this community", and that something rotten is a pair of defense lawyers which I shall be kind enough to not mention by name.
Thank You Pommy, for the summary of Day Two of the trial:
MAY 20, 2021
Key takeaways from Day 2 of trial for accused killer of University of Iowa student Mollie Tibbetts - ABC News (go.com)
Kivi said that just two days before his encounter with Bahena Rivera, an undocumented immigrant from Mexico, other investigators on the case were combing through security video they had collected from homes and businesses in Brooklyn, Iowa, and came upon footage of Tibbetts jogging in the rural farming community. Investigators also noticed in the footage that a black Chevy Malibu with chrome side mirrors and chrome door handles kept appearing over and over again in the same area and around the same time Tibbetts was out exercising.
Agent Derek Riessen of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation testified he and other investigators were going through about 30-days worth of video taken from the home of Brooklyn resident Logan Collins, 27. Collins testified that he turned over to authorities in mid-August 2018 video taken from four security cameras he had mounted on his garage.
He said investigators determined the jogger seen in the video was Tibbetts, testifying that another witness had seen Tibbetts jogging not far from Collins' home just before she went missing.
Riessen said a black Mailbu was seen going past Collins home six different times and that the last time it was seen it was headed in the direction Tibbetts was running.
Acting on the information Kivi had gotten from Bahena Rivera, Special Agent Michael Fischels of the Department of Homeland Security said he and other investigators went to the dairy where Bahena Rivera worked on Aug. 20 and questioned him and other employees with the permission of the dairy owners.
Pamela Romero, a former Liberty City, Iowa, police officer, said she was asked to help interview Bahena Rivera because she speaks Spanish.
Romero said that during an 11-hour interview, Bahena Rivera confessed when he was confronted with a still image of his car captured on Collins' security camera.
She said the interview continued into the early morning hours of the next day, Aug. 21, and that Rivera went with her and other investigators to his home, his place of work and then directed them to a cornfield on the outskirts of Brooklyn.
Romero said that while sitting in a police vehicle parked near the cornfield, she read Bahena Rivera, who had been placed under arrest, his Miranda rights. He said he waived his right to remain silent and agreed to continue the interview.
Romero said Bahena Rivera allegedly claimed Tibbetts said she was going to call the police.
"Mr. Rivera said that he got angry," Romero said. "After he said that he got angry, he stated that they started fighting. He said that Mollie tried to slap him and was screaming at him."
Romero said that Bahena Rivera allegedly claimed that when he gets angry, he usually blacks out.
"So the next thing that he told me was he remembered driving and looking down to his legs and finding the earbuds that belonged to Mollie and that is when he remembered he had Mollie in the back of his vehicle, in the trunk," Romero said. "He stated that he did not remember putting her inside the car. He did not remember how she got there but he did remember how he took her out of the vehicle."
Romero said Bahena Rivera allegedly said he drove to the cornfield, opened the trunk and saw blood on Tibbetts' neck.
During his opening statement at the trial on Wednesday, prosecutor Bart Klaver told the jury that an autopsy determined Tibbetts was stabbed seven to 12 times in the neck, head and chest.
Romero testified that when she pressed Bahena Rivera for more details, he allegedly replied, "I brought you here, didn't I? So, that means that I did it. I don't remember how I did it."
Murder trial of Cristhian Bahena Rivera: Day 2
During testimony, Kivi stated that FBI cell phone analysis helped authorities narrow down where Tibbetts may have disappeared.
“There was some kind of what (the FBI) called an ‘event’ at a certain point along 385th Ave., and all of the sudden (Tibbetts’) phone is traveling, like, 55 to 60 mph down south down a gravel road,” Kivi said. “And then it just shuts off.”
'I brought you to here, didn't I?': Officer recounts 11-hour interview with Bahena Rivera (kcci.com)
Another snippet from the same linked article:
Bahena Rivera told Romero during their interview he used the Nissan Altima on gravel roads because it wasn’t up to date on registration, but used the Chevrolet Malibu to drive around town.
When initially in the interview room, Romero showed Bahena Rivera pictures of the vehicle from three security videos. Bahena Rivera told her it was his car and he was alone in the car at the time of the photos.
Romero showed the photograph of the security camera catching a jogger, but the gender of the jogger is unidentified. When showed the image, Bahena Rivera referred to the jogger as a female and recalled seeing her that day. He then told Romero he saw the jogger three times.
Bahena Rivera had told Romero that he thought she was “attractive” and “hot.”
Denise Hnytka on Twitter
Johnson also called to site where Mollie's body is found. Crime tape shows secured location in the cornfield.@wqad #MollieTibbetts
11:33 AM · May 21, 2021·Twitter Web App
Shannon Moudy on Twitter
Brown: "How would you describe the remoteness of the area?" Johnson: "It was quite remote. There was a house to the east approximately half a mile, house to the west approximately half a mile."
Body was in corn, which was about 400 feet from the road, to the left and straight of an entrance into the corn about 60 feet.
Johnson says they could see Mollie's bright running shoes but the rest of the body was covered by bent corn stalks.
Mollie's brightly colored running shoes were visible, while the rest of her body was covered by cornstalks. Johnson describes the corn as very dense.
Shannon Moudy on Twitter
Johnson says the body was clothed in the shoes, black socks, a pink sports bra. No shorts were found at the location, nor the Fitbit.
11:43 AM · May 21, 2021·Twitter Web App
I am only posting stuff that deals directly with the kerfuffle of this new version of events why they 2 inmates.
But there was a full day of testimony about Mollie's blood and DNA being found in the trunk and on the exterior of the trunk area---blood platter on license plate frame, etc
But we did see above that her fit-bit was not found with her remains.
Here is more evidence that casts doubt on the inmate's story:
She was found without her shorts on
they were found near her in cornfield 15 feet from her body further in cornfield
stripped pattern consistent with underpants found 34 feet from her body further in cornfield
Shannon Moudy on Twitter
Nearby in the corn, Johnson found the black shorts 15 ft. south of the body, a possible headband found 24 ft. away from the body. Striped underwear found around 34 ft to the southwest.
SO IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS WAS AN ACTIVE CRIME SCENE, NOIT SIMPLY A DUMP SITE.
Most definitely. Thank you for taking the time to make this clear. The trap is crap. MOO
Agent Vileta describes the effort to find Mollie's phone and FitBit. Those items were never recovered. A device dog was even called in to sniff out these electronics, but no luck. Murder weapon never found in this investigation either.
"Were you going farmhouse to farmhouse trying to get any information?" Scott Brown asks. "Yes."
9:18 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
"Ultimately you were at the location where Mollie was discovered." "That's true. [...] I think relatively close, I think maybe quarter to half mile away."
The footage on Logan Collins' cameras broke open the case for us," Agent Vileta says. Says it showed the black Malibu and a "brief glimpse of Mollie Tibbetts" running past.
9:24 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
"We had Fitbit data that showed previous routes," Agent Vileta says it showed the route taken July 18th was one of Mollie's previous ones.
"Is it your assertion that Mollie was killed on 385th St?" Vileta: Not sure where she was killed.
Vileta agrees the crime was "violent" and force was used. State objects to question on if it was done in rage.
rese asks about motivation of crime. Agent Vileta says he'd have to speculate but there are many reasons people act as they do. Agrees anger could be one.
10:13 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Angenette Levy on Twitter
@FBI Supervisory Special Agent Kevin Horan on the stand. He handles all things cell phones, he says. From Ohio to Hawaii. He works out of Dayton, Ohio
Supervisory Special Agent Kevin Horan on the stand. He handles all things cell phones, he says. From Ohio to Hawaii. He works out of Dayton, Ohio
Agent Horan was involved in looking into cellular data of #MollieTibbetts.
11:25 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
"Essentially it's telling us a story" of what a person does, who they talk to, etc.
Initially went through call detail records (all calls and texts.)
Also looked at data that pointed to cell's location relative to cell towers.
Agent Horan was looking at July 18th starting at 8 pm (the info he got on when Mollie was last seen on 385th).
Nicole Agee on Twitter
He requested additional data beyond the initial set of records from Sprint (which would have been calls/texts). The additional data would show phone location.
Horan says he was told to review the time Mollie would've been jogging on July 18. The jury is looking at a map of the Sprint cell tower in Brooklyn and the direction of Mollie's phone. @KCRG
11:40 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Agent Horan developed a graphic showing where Mollie's phone utilized a tower between 8:15 and 8:28 pm.
11:38 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Agent Horan could pinpoint which side of the tower the phone was using. It pointed them anywhere east of that area.
Horan says there were “multiple hits” from Mollie’s phone to the tower in the black arc on this map. This tells him how the phone is moving. @KCRG
After 8:28p, Horan says we see the cell phone depart from the tower -- much farther south, 4 or 5 miles away. Arcs coming from a different sector of the tower, he says. He says speed estimate was 60mph.@KCCINews
11:49 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Brown: Is it accurate to say that after that time, Mollie's phone was heading 60mph+ in a southerly direction? Horan: Yes. @KCCINews
"After 8:28 pm we see the phone depart from this tower," Horan says. Mollie was running about a 10 min mile, but starting around 8:35 to nearly 9 pm, the pace picked up to 60 MPH.
Heading south this time.
11:50 AM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Kevin Horan from the FBI is still on the stand following lunch recess. The prosecution is asking him about the areas of interest based off Mollie's cell phone data (abduction area and last known "ping"). @KCRG
1:21 PM · May 24, 2021·Twitter Web App
Shannon Moudy on Twitter
Agent Horan says last hit of Mollie on certain tower is 8:28 pm. around box 1 (above.) "The next one after that was at 8:35 and it was much farther south [...] you're basically doing a calculation, time distance, and you'll get the speed of whatever she was in."
Says that was in the low 60 MPH range around box 2.
Denise Hnytka on Twitter
Horan testifying that data shows at 8:28pm her phone starts heading south, off her normal running route. Next data point shows phone was traveling > 60mph
All they had was tweets , because we couldn't watch any of the trial---but from watching the talking heads on Law and Crime, they said the towers being pinged were ones by the remote cornfield where she was dumped.
CBR was in a hurry to get her out of his trunk. He wasn't heading in to town to a trap house.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Very well said. I get what they do is not easy. I couldn’t sleep at night if my occupation was a defense attorney and that job comes with it’s questionable methods and tactics. Sometimes the suspect is truly wrongfully accused and a defense attorney does their job right and to the thanks of the community. In this case that hasn’t happened. The suspect for all intents and purposes was rightfully convicted of murder in the 1st. The two defense attorneys while may not have broken any laws in their efforts to defend the murderer…..they have however repeatedly found new ways to go above and beyond in their abhorrent behavior throughout and now after said trial. To the point that I legitimately question their workplace ethics. They certainly don’t care what they have and continue to put the victim’s family and friends through(never ending case; or so it seems) but the preposterous and ridiculous accusations(including now) are to the point that anyone with a brain wouldn’t hire them for future cases. They are unethical clowns imho who seem to focus more on the absurd and performance in and out of the court room than the actual justified and honorable/ethical attempts of a legal defense team. I feel if they honestly thought their client want 100% innocent that maybe….just maybe I could let some of the stuff slide….but I can’t with a straight face say they believe their client or have since day 1. They know just as all of us do where the real truth is. But the ridiculous, heartless, unethical clown show continues on….anyways…. I just had to vent and add on to your well stated response.
They weren't responsible for the 'debacle' surrounding CBR's interview / statement / confession, all very amateurish, reminds me of Police Academy 1 - 7 (the movies). They weren't responsible for the 'informants' coming forward (especially after they were reluctant to pursue it after the first 'informant' came forward). I think you need to vent at others to.
This ongoing drama, must be so difficult for Mollie's family. CBR, with his crazy antics, is going to be stirring this up for decades. His, "Wrongly accused, convicted, injustice", mantra can go on forever
The only one "good" thing that I can see, is that CBR doesn't have a lot of support for his claims. We don't see any marches, or protests supporting CBR. Which to me, indicates that people believe he killed Mollie Tibbets, and there is no doubt in anyone's mind. The judge is allowing this circus to continue to ensure that once the dust settles, CBR will be sentenced and secured for life.
I have to backtrack on something I had wrong, which is that I do think, after studying the map more, that the cornfield is just barely inside the 17 sq. mile search area that Horan presented. Sorry for my confusion.
My question is that if cell data proved CBR went straight to the cornfield, why would his defense team even chose to bring this argument forward? The ONLY way I see this being viable is if they could prove CBR abducted her during her jog and brought her to the trap house, which was also within that 17 sq. mile search area, and the body was disposed within the same area. It would be an extremely unlikely argument, so why pursue any of it? I'm sure there have been other confessions... there always are.
Do we know what roads are within that search area?
EDIT: I think I found what I was looking for, so please ignore this.