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  1. imjustagirl123

    imjustagirl123 Justice for Morgan and Hannah

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    This occurred in Idaho.Just heard this on sky news channel and will post link when I have it.
     
  2. imjustagirl123

    imjustagirl123 Justice for Morgan and Hannah

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  3. Mrs G Norris

    Mrs G Norris #JeSuisUrsa

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    WTF .. wow huh?
     
  4. Caffeine

    Caffeine Active Member

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    Carrying a loaded firearm loose in a purse with no safety is foolish with kids around.

    Especially if you are browsing around in a store likely with your purse and 2 year old in the cart together.

    There are enough holster options for women to be able to carry concealed with ANY apparel on. Thigh, ankle, hip, back...they even have bra holsters.

    It's sad, but its a foolish mistake that was entirely preventable.



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  5. liljim

    liljim Former Member

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    "Carrying a loaded firearm loose in a purse with no safety is foolish anytime, ever."

    fixed that for you.
     
  6. Caffeine

    Caffeine Active Member

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    I'm not going to argue with people's preference for carrying a gun. Safety on, safety off, loaded, unloaded...that's your choice but your choice should have other people's safety in mind.

    Ideally, regardless of if that gun was ready to fire or not it should have been in a holster on her body with a 2 year present.

    There's nothing wrong with a loaded gun in a purse. My mother, a Realtor, carried hers that way for 35 years without incident. However she was showing houses to adults in sometimes unsavory parts of town... not caring for children.

    My dad is a retired state trooper. He carried on and off duty loaded and ready to go. But again, he wasn't running a nursery.

    Regardless of what the situation is, guns should never be accessible to children.

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  7. charminglane

    charminglane Helcat!

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    The people of WalMart.

    I'll go hide now.
     
  8. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    All JMO and i dont want to get into any sort of debate either. Just some opinions.

    This is such a sad story because it was preventable.

    A child that can access the weapon when the parent is not looking is an accident waiting to happen. Children are curious and mischevous at times. Weapons should never be easily accessible to children like in this sad story.

    Whatever it takes to accomplish that. I like the idea of a holster on-body if the person feels they need to have their protection with them while they shop with their children.

    In the home, it gets even more dangerous because as kids grow up, they will sometimes go on the hunt for the weapon even if you think they never would do such a thing. Sometimes it is just curiousity and they want to see it up close when parents are not around. Sometimes it is even worse and they want to shoot it while parents are not around. Situations like that are accidents waiting to happen that are preventable.

    For me personally, I finally invested in a very large 5 foot tall gun safe that has all my weapons. I dont have any children either so it is a little easier for me but when we have visitors it is nice to know all my weapons are in 1 place locked in that safe.

    To be honest, I am not sure what I would do in the evening if I had children because I do like to keep one nearby when I sleep. I suppose I would invest in some sort of quick-entry safe and have it near the bed. I think they are making fancy ones now. Not sure if they make one that can open by fingerprint or not, but I sure would not want to be fooling with a key or combination lock if someone was breaking into my house. Quick and easy access is important for homeowner safety, but of course so is child safety, so there is the dilemna that gets us in trouble sometimes.


    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/30/idaho-toddler-shoots-kills-mother-walmart
     
  9. tlcya

    tlcya Well-Known Member

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    oh my gosh, coworker told me about this one but my day was so hectic I could not read about it til now. What on earth are people thinking? Leaving a loaded gun no safety loose in a purse? Or, as in other cases, out on coffee tables, dressers, under pillows, etc. I mean for goodness sakes?! How many of these tragic accidental shootings must we have before people really truly "get it"?
     
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    CHERIE.T Former Member

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    :thud: o m gee. So extremely sad.
     
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    Jan New Member

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    It's a wonder an innocent shopper wasn't shot and killed when the gun went off, or a child. The thought of people carrying loaded guns into stores makes me nervous. A lot of my female friends carry handguns because the area of Flint, MI, is the most dangerous in the United States. I won't own or carry a gun. I don't want to take the chance of any kind of accident happening. At my home, I have a German shepherd, Doberman pinscher, lab, and several pit bulls. I doubt if anyone would try to come into my house without permission. There are 10 large dogs in my house. When we go somewhere at night, I take my German shepherd in the car with me whenever possible.
     
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    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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    From Blondie in Spokane's DM link above. (And there've been other similar incidents in the not-too-distant past.)
     
  14. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    She was shopping with her FOUR kids...
    Those poor kids all witnessed their mother's death. :tears:
     
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    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    Terrible preventable tragedy.
    Some handguns have no safety. Revolvers come to mind.
    Apparently mom had no `real`control of her handgun.

    Whether one is a hunter, a Cop or a CCW citizen, one is morally responsible for "controlling" their firearm.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    These things will continue to occur when a populace undereducated about safety measures is in effect encouraged to carry weapons whose purpose when used is to injure and kill.
     
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    Who'd have thought that Hayden, Idaho was such a crime infested place that a loaded handgun was needed for an outting to Wal-Mart?

    My sympathies to the children.
     
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    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    I know, I encourage all law abiding citizens to carry a gun, it's way lighter than trying to tote me, or other cops bigger than me, or wait for me to get there.
     
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    Archangel7 Verified Law Enforcement

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    Crime happens anywhere. However I believe she was from out of town.
     
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    vlpate Sleuther with a porpoise

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    Some handguns have no safety, but the ones that don't take a certain amount of pressure to pull the trigger...would a two year old have that kind of strength?

    Color me clueless and genuinely curious.
     
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