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The fact that they were looking for camera info from 95 specifically could maybe be they are trying to confirm an alibi?
"Snell said the theory plays into the notion that one of the four was targeted but refused to say which of the victims police believe to be the target, describing it as a 'delicate question'.
- In an interview with DailyMail.com, Idaho State Police spokesman Aaron Snell, 49, said it is possible all four victims could have been targeted
- 'We still believe it was a targeted attack based on the evidence at the scene and how everything developed, what we know. We believe that's accurate,' he said
- But Snell admitted police are still no closer to identifying a murderer and refused to say which of the victims is believed to be the target
- He said: 'That's a real delicate question and when we're able to say that or if we're able to say that, we'll definitely do that'
- Police are also still unable to corroborate claims that victim Kaylee Goncalves, 21, may have had a stalker
- Goncalves's pet dog Murphy was home at the time of the slayings and is now living with her ex-boyfriend (JD) and his family in Coeur D'Alene, Idaho
- Seen in exclusive DailyMail.com photos, red-haired (JD), 22, had dated Kaylee for six years and was possibly the last person to speak with her
- He has been ruled out as a suspect and has been too heartbroken to speak, with his mom telling DailyMail.com that the family intends to stay silent out of respect
He said: 'That's part of the ongoing investigation. That's a real delicate question and when we're able to say that or if we're able to say that, we'll definitely do that."
Idaho police can't corroborate claims that victim had a stalker
Police investigating the stabbing deaths of four University of Idaho students have insisted at least one of the victims was targeted - but refuse to say which of the friends could have been the focus.www.dailymail.co.uk
Lots of photos at link
to me the weirdest part of this whole case is that the way the victims were killed looks like a passional murder. Multiple wounds, a very bloody scene and the closeness the attacker was from the victims. But also puzzles me that E didn't live there. Was it a crime of opportunity? Maybe the person was targeting K or M and just after killing X + E he noticed he got the wrong person?I am not sure anyone was targeted. Whoever resisted most might have invited more anger, but it doesn’t mean, targeted. I don’t see the reason to kill four people if you are after one. Maybe the guy was so cold-hearted that he needed one, killed the other one in the room, and the other two, to complicate matters for the police?
But if someone was, it really makes sense to think of people permanently living in the house. To kill a man in his GF’s room is very mafia-like style, sorry. And really, it takes a lot of stalking.
To kill a person who randomly stopped at the house, like K, “now or never” style, takes a lot of preparation.
The other two girls are more traceable because they live there.
I can imagine someone hiding in the house in advance, but not dressed for murder. I think he walked in. JMO. Good luck to Idaho police and FBI.
IMO, the killer could have 1) Killed his target first then had to deal with the other roommates waking up or; 2) Had such rage that he just killed everyone he saw/knew of being in the house or; 3) Targeted the entire household for some as-yet-unknown reasonI don’t see the reason to kill four people if you are after one. Maybe the guy was so cold-hearted that he needed one, killed the other one in the room, and the other two, to complicate matters for the police?
I like your username.Cops are upset that the other roommates called their friends before 911.
That speaks volumes about trust in LE. I just checked CNN and the story is no longer in the home page. Fox has it as the third headline but only to say that now that students are back there are a lot of tips. I think it is either a young student who will be caught this semester or it is a juvenile or young neighborhood kid who frequents the woods. He may steal their alcohol or other party items and may be very familiar with breaking into that house. We need footprint analysis and what direction the perp headed when he left the house. His height and weight will also be available from that.Moscow, Idaho community on edge as students return from break, police see more 911 calls pouring in
University of Idaho students Ethan Chapin, 20; Kaylee Goncalves, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and 21-year-old Madison Mogen were stabbed several times and killed on November 13.www.foxnews.com
That’s not what it says. They are talking about calls coming in now re: suspicious circumstances, not the roommates: (BBM)
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As of Sunday, Moscow Police Department has seen an uptick in calls from people reporting "unusual circumstances" or requesting welfare checks on loved ones in the weeks since four University of Idaho students were discovered murdered on November 13. Police have received 78 calls for unusual circumstances and 36 requests that police perform a welfare check – up from the 70 and 18, respectively, they received during October as a whole, the department said in a Sunday press release.
Police are also sounding the alarm on a trend in which the callers are notifying their friends or family before phoning officers to respond, authorities said. “
Could E have been stabbed before exiting the room? Do we know if he was stabbed outside of the room or could he have been stabbed in bed and then made his way to the hall, either while the killer was there or after the killer left?I would like to know where and what each was doing from like 4-9? As well as what time the game was and if they attended. I don’t believe the dance was that day but could be wrong as I’ve seen and heard different days.
Also if E was in the hall after hearing something and the killer appeared with a knife wouldn’t there have been quite a struggle? To me it suggests the killer very strong and possibly big. Or is a person with a knife able to overtake someone right away?
Agree: I don’t think he’s killed himself, either. I think he’s enjoying reliving his “success.”JMO but I don’t think the killer committed suicide. If he killed one person, he might feel remorse and guilt, but 4? I think he liked it. He liked it so much he was frenzied and brutal…overkill. As for motive? Bat sh-t crazy. Might have heard voices; might have been passing judgment and judged them unworthy. Might have been challenging himself to see if he could be a special forces member. Might be a gang initiation. Might have thought they were part of an alien invasion. Might have issues and stopped taking his meds. Might have been revenge for something that happened to a loved one. Might have been a religious fanatic looking to prove his faith. Might have just been evicted and lost his job and flunked out of school. Might have been rescuing them from a brutal world… MOO? Bat-sh-t crazy. No sane reason. Profile might be interesting after an arrest but no two profilers have the same theory. LE will have to follow the evidence and pray it gives them a direction to look. MOO
Why do you think it's a student, and why do you think the killer had a hunting license?Good point. I presumed that the suspect, which I believe to be a male student with a hunting license, was close to the victims and attended the same university. I'll factor this into my search and follow up with new data once I find it.
I agree with you. Even though all roommates are technically adults, we all say "college kids" for a reason. Cops are terrifying to college kids drinking and/or more. When I was in college, I was overdosing at a friend's house and he wouldn't let my brother call for help for fear of getting in trouble. Considering this was considered "a party house" I can see why the paranoia may have set in -- as long as the survivors had not seen the gruesome scene. Then I don't know what to say. MOOI totally understand why the girls downstairs called their friends first.
If they heard some commotion upstairs and then silence in the morning, given that it was a party house, they probably thought, drunk or OD. You don’t call the police because it is Idaho with strict drug laws. Also, some of the girls were 21, adults, but E was 20. The career of the 21 year-old, X, would be ruined because of legalities.
So I understand the girls downstairs calling their friends first, to check on the upstairs floor. I think they didn’t suspect murders at all.
Perhaps he was attacked while opening the door to check things out and somehow ended up falling back on the bed. Or the killer could have heard something in the room Ethan was in and struck. Although I doubt the latter. JMOCould E have been stabbed before exiting the room? Do we know if he was stabbed outside of the room or could he have been stabbed in bed and then made his way to the hall, either while the killer was there or after the killer left?
Can I just tell you how awesome your post is? Thank you!Thought it would be interesting to see how many different "profiles" the paid professionals are coming up with. Keep in mind they DO NOT have the data LE has. They are working with the same info we have but have their knowledge and experience.
Hope they are checking camera and gas station vids from the 95 going north and south.The fact that they were looking for camera info from 95 specifically could maybe be they are trying to confirm an alibi?
Yeah, this does sound like they are looking at more than one perp being involved. Thanks for pointing that out.To me, this is the most interesting comment from the article:
'You can't lay all your cards out at once. We're trying to find the various potential participants."
I’m confident LE has it. IMHO, the owner may have been understandably willing to show it to K’s sister before turning it over to LE (in some ways, the investigation seems to have gotten off to a slower start, moo) & has since kept quiet to protect the investigation whether or not anything else of interest was captured. Moo.I'm really curious about the ring camera, seems only Kaylee's sister knows about it and nobody else can find it. I watched a very thorough video of someone walking around that area and they couldn't locate a camera.