ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 21

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This tragedy seems to be breaking news:

Police said they responded to King Road for a report of an unconscious person. When officers arrived, they “discovered four individuals who were deceased...”


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Moscow ID Police Departement Facebook page

City of Moscow re King Road Homicide

Detectives are looking to develop context for the events and people involved in the four murders at 1122 King Rd in Moscow, Idaho. Anyone who observed notable behavior, has video surveillance, or can provide relevant information about these murders:

 
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Please read The Rules (linked in my signature), and continue discussion here.

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The following Johnny Law youtube was originally posted by Mayboy1998 earlier today but because it was not a podcast host we were familiar with and we did not have time to view it in its entirety, it was removed. Having now had time to view it, it is being approved on a one-time basis because it does seem to provide an excellent analysis of the layout of the house, where individuals may have been sleeping, and it speaks to the location of the red liquid in relation to the overall layout of the house.

 

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Thread is open again.

When someone posts a rumor, please do NOT respond. Just Report and let us nip it in the bud.

Responding makes a lot of extra work for us, and we get cranky when we have to read through almost an entire thread to find and clean up 25+ responses about something that should never have been posted in the first place.

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Thread 13, post #977 has the pic with obvious berries on the tree right next to the deck.

Sorry, can't get it to link.

We don't quote post numbers because those can change over time due to Mods having to remove posts.

The following will help everyone know how to quote a post from elsewhere and then your link will not change due to moderation:

How to Quote a Post from Another Thread
 

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ADMIN NOTE:

Stop bringing rumors into this discussion, and stop stating opinion as fact.

There is no approved source to support that EC was found in the hallway.

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Hey everyone,

WS requires links to information stated as fact. What you "heard somewhere" or "read somewhere" "think I heard" etc is NOT an approved source. If you can't link it, you can't post it.

No link, no post !!
 

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KG called 911? Is that new info? Apologies if I missed.
 

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Bingo - and fingers crossed it's all of the above. but even if none of that is there, if it went through the us mail, postmark on it.
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I’m curious as to whether any of these students have Life360 or another type of location app on their phones. It is more of a parental app but my kids have their own “circles” with their friends on them. My circle just includes my kids, but multiple circles can be created. My 15 year old is meeting a friend for shopping today and she just looked up her friend and told me she hadn’t left her house yet so we didn’t have to hurry and finish up lunch. Also the use of the SnapMap. My college aged kids and teens follow each others’ locations.
 

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Just watched the interview with Kaylee's dad. He's mad as hell and I don't blame him. If something ever happened to me, I would want my husband and my dad on every tv show until LE got their act together.

I do think on the manner of death, he may not mean "manner" in the legal sense but physically the injuries were different (slash versus stab). We talked about this in the first week but if one victim had overkill, LE might have immediately thought that one was targeted and it still sounds like that.

 

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www.nytimes.com

Postal Service Confirms Photographing All U.S. Mail (Published 2013)

The Postal Service takes a picture of every letter and package mailed in the United States and will give a photo to a requesting law enforcement agency, the postmaster general confirmed.
www.nytimes.com
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The post office will now email you photos of your mail before it's delivered

Informed Delivery is a service from the United States Postal Service that scans the outside of your mail and shows you the images each morning before the mail is actually delivered. While you still won't be able to see the inside of your mail until it arrives, it should be helpful to know if an...
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I have been using this serive for a while
 

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I believe Steve also said he paid the bill for the autopsy. Is that at all normal?

edit to add: perhaps he meant cremation

He paid the bill means SG believes he paid dearly with the life of his daughter and why he so badly wants to speak out (and probably asked not to share certain details).

I also suspect that one victim had more stab wounds than the other (SG's statement the means don't match).

The family is clearly upset they are not being updated with every detail but this is a perfect example of why LE does not generally share details with family. Family members are too vulnerable -- they're in shock.

More important is that investigations evolve, it's not like TV. It's one thing to identify the suspect but another to successfully prosecute them. Investigators are charged with keeping things under wrap and not risking the evidence being ruled inadmissible because it was blasted on MSM before the suspect was apprehended and charged. MOO

ETA: Imo, SG was having an emotional moment here and his statement about going upstairs was in reference to the chain of command in the investigation, and not literally the physical stairs.
 
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