ID - DeOrr Kunz Jr, 2, Timber Creek Campground, 10 July 2015 - #2

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  1. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    By the time you read this... I imagine that there have been many answers by other sleuthers....

    But.... just in case there aren't...

    BBM equals - Bold By Me...

    Phrases/paragrapsh/etc. are bolded when posters wish to address particular parts of another quote/post/link...

    HTH... :seeya:
     


  2. MzOpinion8d

    MzOpinion8d Former Member

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    I think "redirect the investigation" is a polite way of saying "we have no clue what happened, but we've done all we could ".
     
  3. sarx

    sarx Verified Expert/Professional in SAR and K9SAR

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    If you zoom in on the map with the mines you can actually see the campground and there does not appear to be any mine near it.

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  4. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    This is an interesting theory... one I hadn't thought of before...

    :waitasec:
     
  5. TxJan1971

    TxJan1971 Well-Known Member

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    See post #118 (last link below) for all the dog links, but here's two that pertain to alerting to the reservoir

    Scent Dogs:
    Divers and others focused on the reservoir about 50 miles southeast of Salmon Wednesday but found no sign of 2-year-old DeOrr Kunz. On Tuesday, scent dogs led searchers to that section of reservoir — the second set of search dogs to show marked interest in that area, Lemhi County Sheriff's Office Chief Deputy Steve Penner told the Post Register.
    http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/0...#storylink=cpy

    Cadaver Dogs:
    Lemhi County Sheriff Lynn Bowerman told Dateline divers were searching Timber Creek Reservoir again Wednesday after cadaver dogs indicated there may be more there to find. A comprehensive search of the 2.5-mile radius of the family's campsite turned up no clues.
    http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/idah...mpsite-n392776

    Link to Post #118 - DOGS LINKS

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...ground-10-July-2015-2&p=11941797#post11941797
     
  6. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    What are everyone's theories? My main ones are accidental drowning or wild animal carried him off. Why no trace of him, I don't know.
     
  7. takeitfromme412

    takeitfromme412 New Member

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    I am sure there are more survivalist type people living in those areas in camps than you may think. Not just in ID but in many other wilderness filled states.

     
  8. catswhiskers

    catswhiskers Active Member

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    Yes I think it's that simple too. I wish the word 'dumped' hadn't been used in association with the cremains - when people take the time to take them to a specific lake, river, mountain, beach or similar, they aren't 'dumping' anything. The ashes are probably being scattered in a meaningful way - if dumping was their intention, the bag or container and its contents could be disposed of in a much more convenient location.
    I also don't think people decide where to cast their loved ones ashes on a whim either. There could be a good chance that the person/s involved had made their plans quite a while ago, and were oblivious to what was going on in the area.
    The only photo I have seen of the lake search seemed to involve a group of individuals and several vehicles assembled at the narrow end of the lake (I think this is where it overlooks the camping area below) - again, the ashes could have been distributed on the water at any given time at a part of the lake where the search wasn't so obvious.
     
  9. takeitfromme412

    takeitfromme412 New Member

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    My instinct is this is some sort of accident involving him wandering away. Why no trace is beyond me, but that is thick rugged terrain out there.

     
  10. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    Sleep well, Carbuff!

    Looking forward to hearing from you on this thread tomorrow!

    :seeya:
     
  11. Jules71

    Jules71 Well-Known Member

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    A lot of good info at that link.

    " What happened during the 20 to 45 minutes the child was alone is a mystery to authorities, said Bowerman, who noted "all possibilities" are being investigated."


    " Bowerman, however, said he's not convinced of an abduction, noting that no other campers were seen or heard in the area at the time of the disappearance. He also described the terrain as "steep and rugged" and said*vehicles can reach the site but "the road is extremely rough."

    "We don't have any evidence that somebody kidnapped this child," he said."

    It also said the vehicleS have been examined by police.



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  12. 4senthia

    4senthia New Member

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    Crazy thought so take this as a grain of salt and too much Agatha Christie.
    Some people do have cremains in their possession that don't mean anything to them anymore if they ever did. When your ex husband/wife left her 2nd cousin twice removed cremains when they moved out, you'd probably get rid of them.
    Thinking along that line, could the cremains have been put in that specific place to confuse/stop the dogs and buy more time?
    Stranger things have happened.
    Weird but clues are so often overlooked with the easiest of explanations.

    jmo and slightly embarrassed to think this:blushing:
     
  13. Cricket99

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    Believe, this is not where the homeless gather. You might see someone on a highway around there walking to somewhere they can survive, but there is no allure for them in this particular area.
     
  14. Cricket99

    Cricket99 Well-Known Member

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    I cannot imagine putting anyones cremaines in this reservoir or any reservoir. Seems odd. However, I would never camp at this site either. I don't care for "roughing" it.
     
  15. LayzeeDayzee

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    I agree. IMO, an odd thing to report/disclose to the public. It should automatically go without saying in the case of a missing child who, as time passes, there continues to be no trace of, that all parties who would have been with child at the campsite would have criminal background checks done.....in fact, to me it would be unusual if such checks were NOT done.

     
  16. LayzeeDayzee

    LayzeeDayzee Well-Known Member

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    Might seem odd to you but people generally spread cremains in a location that was a favorite place of the deceased, that carries special meaning. Perhaps whomever was putting cremains into the reservoir was doing so for a whole host of reasons: they and the deceased first met there at the reservoir "x" number of years ago, the deceased spent much time there fishing, that was the deceased's most favorite spot due to the beautiful surrounding scenery, etc. The location is generally one that only has significance to the deceased or their loved one whose disposing of the cremains - might not make sense to others to but to that person it does.

     
  17. IHAVENOCLUE

    IHAVENOCLUE Well-Known Member

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    Hi Sarx!

    Here is the link from:

    BlkMtnGirl
    Thread #2 - Page #2 - Post #28

    http://www.us-mining.com/idaho/leadore

    HTH... :seeya:
     
  18. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    No trace=kidnapping by family/friend.

    JMO
     
  19. darcedarce

    darcedarce It's not easy to tell you goodbye

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    I hope so! Then there would be hope little Deorr is not deceased.
     
  20. concernedmother

    concernedmother Well-Known Member

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    I thought he wandered into the creek. Its so close to the campsite. But surely they would have found him by now.
     
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