ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #68

[fred&edna]

So what exactly are the penalties LVD is now facing?

 

[Nikynoo]

So what exactly are the penalties LVD is now facing?

in Idaho - Life without parole is the max, BUT don't forget the Arizona charges - so there is hope

 

[Ruby_PA]

Is no one going to comment on how horrific her jailhouse makeup looks? Good lord, it looks like she hit every branch on the way down.

As much as I despise her and what she did, I don't like to focus on how she looks. I'm sure we all had the same thoughts about her makeup & hair, but really, it's off topic and kind of juvenile to criticize looks. I do wonder though, where she gets her makeup. Must be her lawyers, there is no make up on the commissary menu.
I knew someone who did a short stint in county for traffic violations and she told me the women would use pencils to fill in eyebrows and foil gum wrappers to make fake jewelry.

 

[Niner]

Lori's case

proposed jury instructions filed by defense https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions Filed.pdf

proposed jury instructions and verdict form filed by the State https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions.pdf

Thanks for these!
You see to have access to the court site - is there a hearing set for Lori yet? And for Chad maybe?

TIA!

 

[Tortoise]

Thanks for these!
You see to have access to the court site - is there a hearing set for Lori yet? And for Chad maybe?

TIA!

not that I've seen Niner

 

[Niner]

not that I've seen Niner

Thanks for checking!

 

[longtimereader]

Lori's case

proposed jury instructions filed by defense https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions Filed.pdf

proposed jury instructions and verdict form filed by the State https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions.pdf

I have never read jury instructions before a trial. Seems like a lot of information will be left out if they only focus on those elements? Someone unfamiliar with the whole case and her history may think she is not ultimately responsible, just Alex. I had not doubted her ultimate conviction until I read these. I hope I am wrong and maybe I don't understand these documents.

 

[fred&edna]

in Idaho - Life without parole is the max, BUT don't forget the Arizona charges - so there is hope

Thank you! LWOP has a satisfactory ring to it (imo).

 

[fred&edna]

I think some type of provisions should be made so that Tammy's family can see the trial. That upsets me much more than the Judge removing the DP. jmo

 

[Ruminations]

Lori's case

proposed jury instructions filed by defense https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions Filed.pdf

proposed jury instructions and verdict form filed by the State https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/032123 Proposed Jury Instructions.pdf

I'm confused about why the state has to prove things like Chad's wind direction search to demonstrate Lori's guilt.

 

[iamshadow21]

As much as I despise her and what she did, I don't like to focus on how she looks. I'm sure we all had the same thoughts about her makeup & hair, but really, it's off topic and kind of juvenile to criticize looks. I do wonder though, where she gets her makeup. Must be her lawyers, there is no make up on the commissary menu.
I knew someone who did a short stint in county for traffic violations and she told me the women would use pencils to fill in eyebrows and foil gum wrappers to make fake jewelry.

I figured she may have had to put it on while in cuffs.

(My earlier comment was on her expression, not her grooming. She looked, to me, upset and angry.)

 

[887sMtreme]

Alexandra Duggan (Alex)
@dugganreports
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#LoriVallow mugshot from today in Boise. She won’t be housed with others, and likely won’t be seen outside the courthouse walking in/out before and after trial on April 3. Prosecutors have also submitted their jury instructions.

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Alexandra Duggan (Alex)
@dugganreports
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ASCO: #LoriVallow is being housed by herself for the safety of her & others.

Dance like nobody’s watching, Your Graciousness.

 

[887sMtreme]

Potentially multiple life sentences and fines — not counting what Arizona has up its sleeve for her.

 

[legalmomma]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639086319996649473

 

[fred&edna]

As much as I despise her and what she did, I don't like to focus on how she looks. I'm sure we all had the same thoughts about her makeup & hair, but really, it's off topic and kind of juvenile to criticize looks. I do wonder though, where she gets her makeup. Must be her lawyers, there is no make up on the commissary menu.
I knew someone who did a short stint in county for traffic violations and she told me the women would use pencils to fill in eyebrows and foil gum wrappers to make fake jewelry.

It is juvenile but a smirking mother who is on trial for conspiring to kill her children has made herself an easy mark. jmo

 

[887sMtreme]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1639086319996649473

Very interesting And thanks for sharing. I note that EIN has finally started referring to JJ and Tylee as “children,” but Lum continues to call them “kids.” That seems disrespectful. Am I alone in thinking this? I know it’s a small matter but it has always seemed to me that those young victims deserve more dignity.

 

[iamshadow21]

Very interesting And thanks for sharing. I note that EIN has finally started referring to JJ and Tylee as “children,” but Lum continues to call them “kids.” That seems disrespectful. Am I alone in thinking this? I know it’s a small matter but it has always seemed to me that those young victims deserve more dignity.

Maybe it's about the character limit. Kids is shorter.

 

[BeckyF]

As much as I despise her and what she did, I don't like to focus on how she looks. I'm sure we all had the same thoughts about her makeup & hair, but really, it's off topic and kind of juvenile to criticize looks. I do wonder though, where she gets her makeup. Must be her lawyers, there is no make up on the commissary menu.
I knew someone who did a short stint in county for traffic violations and she told me the women would use pencils to fill in eyebrows and foil gum wrappers to make fake jewelry.

If it doesn’t violate TOS, I don’t see the harm in it.

 

[Kemug]

I wonder if Colby will be in court.

 

[Nikynoo]

I'm confused about why the state has to prove things like Chad's wind direction search to demonstrate Lori's guilt.

The conspiracy angle maybe?