GUILTY ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #75

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KonaHonu said:
I don't think she'll get LWOP. I'm thinking more like 20 years.

Arizona will want to try her. They don't want her to go free if she successfully appeals the Idaho conviction. I think there is only a small chance that happens but Arizona won't take that chance!
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If I am understanding what I’m reading correctly about Idaho law, it requires a life sentence for 1st degree murder but does allow the judge to determine if it is without parole and if not then it must be a minimum of 10 years before eligibility for parole or credit etc. She was just convicted of two 1st degree murders and while I still think this judge will give LWOP, he must at a minimum give a life sentence with no parole possibility for at least 10 years on each count so that’s 20 before she is sentenced on the conspiracy charges and the grand theft charges. I think she could also get a life sentence for the conspiracy to murder TD so that would throw in another minimum of 10. These are minimums if she doesn’t get LWOP. But she killed her two children - one of whom was very young and had special needs. There may be an even higher minimum for JJ’s murder because of that. Some states do but I’m not sure about Idaho. Also, at least JJ’s murder could be considered torture as he struggled for his lI’ve and I’m pretty sure Idaho statute calls for LWOP for 1st degree murder of a child when it involves torture. Either way, I don’t think the judge is going to let LVD off lightly for killing her own children. I think LWOP for Tylee and again for JJ to run consecutively and perhaps another LWOP or at least life with eligibility in 10 yrs for the conspiracy to kill TD. I have no idea what the penalty for the grand theft is but with or without it I do not expect LVD to ever see freedom again.
 
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I actually know quite a bit about jail in Arizona, in comparison to jail in Idaho. LVD is going right where she belongs. Jail in Ada County is absolutely fantastic compared to Maricopa. LVD is used to being a little princess in Ada. She is going to be no one in Maricopa. It is a huge facility. Lots of people, in and out. She should cut her hair, otherwise, she is going to have an ongoing problem with lice and nits.
 
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Yes, AZ does have the death penalty

And yes, they do have a "guilty but insane" plea, but I think it'd be very difficult for her to prove.
"Conditions that do not constitute legal insanity include momentary, temporary conditions arising from the pressure of the circumstances, moral decadence, depravity or passion growing out of anger, jealousy, revenge, hatred or other motives in a person who does not suffer from a mental disease or defect or an abnormality that is manifested only by criminal conduct."
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Arizona has strong "stand your ground" laws that might come into play as well. The reality is that it is not unusual to get away with murder in Arizona if the state can't prove premeditation. But I think in this case they will be able to. Even when I remained unconvinced there was enough evidence to prove a conspiracy in Idaho I was convinced there was enough in Arizona.
 
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mickey2942 said:
I actually know quite a bit about jail in Arizona, in comparison to jail in Idaho. LVD is going right where she belongs. Jail in Ada County is absolutely fantastic compared to Maricopa. LVD is used to being a little princess in Ada. She is going to be no one in Maricopa. It is a huge facility. Lots of people, in and out. She should cut her hair, otherwise, she is going to have an ongoing problem with lice and nits.
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I don't disagree from Ada to Maricopa. I was more referring to her being in county. I also understand Idaho isn't exactly Louisiana, Alabama, etc...and also understand there are some rough county jails.

Either way, I do love the aggressiveness of AZ to right this. I think lice & nits would be the least of her problems there.
 
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k-mac said:
Told everyone she was beige!

Anyone will look fabulous with botox, fillers, laser, expensive creams, quality make up and reg hair dresser appts.

What shocks me, is how troubled she must be.
I have never seen anyone get haggard like she has...so quickly! and for someone so vain...I imagine is excruciating for her. ......:cool:

A few lifers get better. The only compliment I will give Darlie Routier...she aged lovely. She was a *advertiser censored* out free but prison has softened her in a positive way and naturally she is much improved.

Not Lori though......good :p
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Tis true! she transformed from a very pretty woman into a haggard shadow of her former self very quickly and it will get much worse--- she will deserve every line and wrinkle on her face, as her hair without dye becomes drab-- hopefully she will never see the light of day and get carried out in a pine box.
 
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Love Never Fails said:
I didn’t know Lori was being charged. I thought that case is about the death of Charles Vallow.
Alex Cox shot at BB, and I believe MP was driving the Jeep.
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I had not even considered that possibility. I have thought she should be charged with conspiracy because she gave AC info about BB’s schedule & vehicle & address…but i never even considered she may have actually been with him. Hmmm… :oops:
 
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aafromaa said:
If I am understanding what I’m reading correctly about Idaho law, it requires a life sentence for 1st degree murder but does allow the judge to determine if it is without parole and if not then it must be a minimum of 10 years before eligibility for parole or credit etc. She was just convicted of two 1st degree murders and while I still think this judge will give LWOP, he must at a minimum give a life sentence with no parole possibility for at least 10 years on each count so that’s 20 before she is sentenced on the conspiracy charges and the grand theft charges. I think she could also get a life sentence for the conspiracy to murder TD so that would throw in another minimum of 10. These are minimums if she doesn’t get LWOP. But she killed her two children - one of whom was very young and had special needs. There may be an even higher minimum for JJ’s murder because of that. Some states do but I’m not sure about Idaho. Also, at least JJ’s murder could be considered torture as he struggled for his lI’ve and I’m pretty sure Idaho statute calls for LWOP for 1st degree murder of a child when it involves torture. Either way, I don’t think the judge is going to let LVD off lightly for killing her own children. I think LWOP for Tylee and again for JJ to run consecutively and perhaps another LWOP or at least life with eligibility in 10 yrs for the conspiracy to kill TD. I have no idea what the penalty for the grand theft is but with or without it I do not expect LVD to ever see freedom again.
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I didn't say he would go light. I've just been researching Idaho murder sentences and life seems to be uncommon. And I have no idea how it works in Idaho but in most states sentences do not stack. They are served concurrently. You may be right about JJ being tortured being a signicant aggravating factor. I did not think of that.
 
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KonaHonu said:
I didn't say he would go light. I've just been researching Idaho murder sentences and life seems to be uncommon. And I have no idea how it works in Idaho but in most states sentences do not stack. They are served concurrently. You may be right about JJ being tortured being a signicant aggravating factor. I did not think of that.
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Not only the torturing but also the age of the victims, I think is why you'll see LWOP or a very excessive sentencing. I too am unfamiliar with Idaho but as you stated, I'd imagine most of these would run concurrently
 
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Love Never Fails said:
Looks like she rolled her hair for this special occasion. Sorry Lori, even if you had a get out of jail free card, Chad would take one look at you and he wouldn’t want you anymore.
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Tammy rocked 49 way better than Lori is. ...:cool:

Tammy had a gorgeous smile and ...no wrinkles.....she loved living and it showed.

Lori's life amongst the zombies is really showing.:eek: Or is she the zombie??
 
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FINALLY, it has been a long four years waiting for justice! Thanks to everybody here for your input and WS for providing the forum.

Once reality sets in for Lori that she’s going to be incarcerated for life, I hope she is on suicide watch.. remember, it’s all about HER inside her head and she has a history of running from her problems/authorities…
 
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