Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #46

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  1. Dorothy Jane

    Dorothy Jane Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, she moved to Rexburg to PUSH him over the edge to kill Tammy. She was dangling .... (wink) and basically said - "I did Charles - now you finish Tammy." I truly believe her showing was the catalyst for the next phase...
     


  2. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    Just have to say I REALLY like this quote. Thanks gumchew.:)
     
  3. gumchew

    gumchew Well-Known Member

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    I know you do. And I promise you I will mail you a crisp $2 bill 1) when that happens, and another one 2) if they certify a different COD.
     
  4. gumchew

    gumchew Well-Known Member

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    @Sorelle19 This is awesome! Thanks for posting. It's great to hear his insight on this.
     
  5. gumchew

    gumchew Well-Known Member

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    Hahahaha I am glad I wasn't the only one planning to do that math. Aside from the religious sect/cult-y backdrop, I wouldn't be shocked to find that Tinder was somehow a part of CD/MP/IP 's worlds before everything went to s*** here.
     
  6. Forever Young

    Forever Young Well-Known Member

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    My imagined scenario has Chad just wanting an affair. Lori has been used to men who will marry her for sex and she wants the prestige of being Mrs. Chad Daybell on the bookselling circuit. She doesn't want to be relegated to number 2.

    Chad tells her that there is Tammy and Lori's young children to think of, so marriage is out of the question as he will not divorce Tammy. Lori thinks, OK, then I'll take care of those "obstacles".

    BTW, last night on my YouTube Feed the first podcast by JM with MG and Lori came up. That's what Lori talked about - overcoming obstacles. JM said something about every believer being put to an Abrahamic test.

    I think another symptom/characteristic for Lori is "easily suggestible". As if she is in a trance state most of the time. A subliminal suggestion is thrown out there, something someone says inadvertently, and her brain latches on to it. Speculation and JMO!
     
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  7. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Bless BB -- he has had to deal with so much due to this crazy family he married in to. He has been protecting his kids, and I think by talking with NP, it has helped her to protect her kids.
    Then to have to ID little JJ, I just cant imagine.
    I hope he has a lot of support to help him through this.
     
  8. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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  9. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Amen to that.
    They are part of the blame, for sure.
     
  10. PinkPrincessPoop

    PinkPrincessPoop Well-Known Member

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    If they really think all their children are zombies, I guess they just don't care anymore...
     
  11. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    I believe that LVD moved to Idaho because the money tree with CV was dead. LVD didn't get her million dollar payout she expected, and as a former hairdresser, she probably wasn't interested in going back to work.

    CD was her only choice. And yes, push him to "do the deed" on TD.
     
  12. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    One can hope, though IMO LOL
     
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  13. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    <modsnip>

    Same here-- I would LOVE to know about the "Retirements from the LE dept. I haven't heard a peep about it or when it happened, if truly after CV murder and the shot at BB.
    Please let us know which LE abruptly "retired" since then.
    TIA
     
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  14. TheLoadedGoat

    TheLoadedGoat Curious Beyond Measure

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    Working in a church setting for a long time (not LDS) you see a lot of ugly stuff. Human sin just is. But the best thing I got out of it was the issues that people faced based on their family of origin. I'm not really even talking major crazy Cox family deep (JMO) but just things like relationships men have with their fathers, how families teach conflict resolution, etc. So glad I could give my daughter many warning signs on what to look for in a future husband. When a person has no support from family, yes, their family might suck. But oftentimes that person has burned all their bridges and have people who finally put up boundaries. Patterns of disfunction are generational until someone says, "no more."
     
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  15. Alpha_Q

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    FY, I snipped your words for the sake of consision only. You filled in some of my blanks and I think you whacked the mole right on the head there: Chad was happy with the affair and his charts and fantasies, while Lori was willing to call his bluff and raise him, and go that extra mile, even tho her deck was (is) short a couple aces. They played off each other, that's for sure. (I just had a horrible thought. Someone somewhere is going to pitch this as a romance gone awry story.)

    Anyway, Alex is the real wild card in all this. I mean, I love my sister, too, but there are limits. What are your thoughts on that guy?
     
  16. Sorelle19

    Sorelle19 Well-Known Member

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    They did. People could call in and listen, and some did. A group is in the process of making a transcript.
     
  17. GoneGoldfishin'

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    So for me, one problem with simplifying the scenario down to a guy who just wants an affair and an unhinged manipulator who just pushed him too far, is that it doesn't explain the MBP/BB portion of the saga. Why did Melani and Alex act together in so many instances (the attempted murder of BB, the trespassing in Utah, the "marriage advice phone calls" :rolleyes:). Why did they move to Rexburg anyway? How did IP enter the picture (no one believes it was a few days before they were married)? And, as stated above, why was Alex so willing to participate? I have been back and forth all these months on whether they really believe in this "religion" they have created, and strangely I am back on the side that they, along with many others, did/do. The only thing I can't reconcile with this is how sleazy and/or worldly they looked and acted in Hawaii. I mean, is this the picture of translated innocence to you? Moo.. 20200624_191439.jpg
     
  18. chwilfrydedd

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    While not a popular opinion, I actually think AxC did die of natural causes. ( or stupidity, take care of your health, and if you are experiencing shortness of breath and chest pains, go to the doctors!) While I think eventually CD and LVD may have come to the conclusion that AxC needed to go, I think his death came at an ‘inconvenient’ time and just drew more attention to them. And I think LVD liked having someone to do all her dirty work.
     
  19. chwilfrydedd

    chwilfrydedd Active Member

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    Didn’t A(the Hawaii friend) state that when LVD came to Hawaii, during the time she was missing to CV, that she tried to convince the friend she was one of the 144,000 and needed to leave her family and come with LVD? Seems they found people who bought into their stuff, got them to divorce their non believing spouses and married them off to other believers. Or were at least working towards that, if we can’t find couples we’ll just create them...
     
  20. The First Article

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    Natural causes is what the experts said so I am willing to just take it at face value. Instead I think God just removed Alex before he could take all the blame, and let CD and LVD and all those around them continue to bake under the glare of being pulled out from under their rocks and stared at by millions of people.

    Sometimes you get what you want.
     
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