Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #63

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  1. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    And keep in mind when reviewing his recollections/testimony, that he is hearing-impaired.
     
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  2. MissTilly

    MissTilly Well-Known Member

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    He really does have the worst case of arrested development - it reads like what an immature fourteen year old boy imagines a sexual relationship to be. I was simultaneously hysterical with laughter and utterly grossed out, but sobered by the thought of the resulting murders.

    ETA: I also had to control the urge to correct the many grammatical and punctuation errors
     
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  3. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    There’s a handy Who’s Who at the beginning of every thread.
     
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    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Thanks for checking it out - and keeping an eye out!
     
  5. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    I wish we could hear Lori’s reaction to learning she was not the beneficiary.
     
  6. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    Don’t forget the second (just to be sure, after he was already flat on his back) BANG.
     
  7. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    Chad's "romance novel" shows a very quick progression of his relationship with Lori. It is no longer surprising that he was able to provide her family's light/dark ratings only days after they first met.
     
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    Just read the "romance novel". As stated above, alternately funny and infuriating at the same time. It is evident this was just what we all thought it was from the beginning, Chad found his dream girl barbie doll cheerleader and it was lust at first sight. For that simple reason, 5 people had to die?

    If he really thinks he can give blessings and cleanse her soul, does he see himself as GOD? So we have Lori who thinks she is a GOD and then Chad seems to believe he is as well.

    These are some seriously deluded individuals, as if we did not already know that.

    ALL OF THE ABOVE JMO.
     
  9. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    Chad is especially fascinated with Lori's behind. No wonder that was caught on camera in the storage video.
     
  10. mickey2942

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    I am impressed by the professionalism of the customer service agent on the phone. And LVD, the breathlessness, the oh, so hesitant...."he died in an 'accident'."

    Come on, girl! Just blurt it out! "My brother shot him.".

    Anyway, there is no way the jury is going to be able to be sequestered in this trial, the labrynith of layers, upon layers of evidence is epic, and just keeps growing. It shows a story, one step at a time, of the planned conspiracy to kill four people.
     
  11. indicolite22

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    Chad's romantic prose also describes the moment when he and Lori were sealed at the temple. The story doesn't say who sealed them. It happened around the first day of the Mesa PAP conference, which started on November 16 2018.

    The end of the document contains Chad's July 22-23 message about fighting zombies:

    "I'm glad I caught Elroy. I feel he was aiming to hide out and then get into JJ."

    I can imagine how he declared Lori's children zombies. He just made up a scenario and gave evil spirit a name. It seems that nobody ever questioned him.

    READ: The 'romance novel' Chad Daybell wrote to Lori Vallow Daybell - East Idaho News
     
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    Interesting. I noticed pictures of CD and LVD in Hawaii, not much evidence of temple garments.
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  13. pizzaman12

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    The amount of craziness in this case is unreal. In my opinion, when this case finally gets to trial in year 2074, we're going to see evidence that will be jaw dropping regardless of how prepared many of us think we are.
     
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    Hazelnutty Kindness Matters

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    Did Chad ever rate his own children (light, dark, zombie) ?
     
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    Again, LVD is NOT LDS. She just "cherry picks" what she wants for her cult head.
     
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    A few more tidbits in this article: Police detail cultish beliefs of mom charged in kids' deaths

    Lori and Chad also used "messaging systems inside of a popular karaoke phone application" to communicate.

    "At times as many as 10 people" were part of their group. (The number previously mentioned by RW was 7.)

    Those who questioned the beliefs were pushed out of the group.

    People were also given “vibration” scores and trustworthiness ratings, and those with high-enough "vibrations" were deemed to be “translated,” holding special powers."


    Some in the group regularly joined Lori in praying for Charles' demise.

    After Charles' murder, Alex told another follower that he didn't feel bad because he killed a zombie.

    The group also believed that once a person became “exalted,” they couldn't be held responsible for their actions on earth.

    “Because Lori was already ‘exalted,’” Pastenes told the investigators, according to their report, “she would often slam her hand on the counter and state, ‘Doesn’t count for me!'”
     
  18. SleuthD-o-doubleg

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    Local update: MM and JA are at the women’s detention center today
     
  19. Satchie

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    Even if Tammy had known about the manner of Charles's death, what would she have done? To be a good wife in most families, means you stick by your man and hope he becomes disenchanted with the floozy who has hypnotized him with her sexuality. IMO, that's where the attitude of the children comes from, I've seen the exact same attitude close up in similar circumstances (not involving murder, but certainly severe neglect and betrayal of family duties).
     
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    Kissing, dry humping, touching breasts and booty squeezing. It's really badly written soft porn/middle schooler fanfic. JMO
     
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