Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #63

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  1. Ruby_PA

    Ruby_PA Well-Known Member

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    From personal experience, I know when certain people go on an exended "vacation" against their will, they have all the time in the world to find god, study and get their Phd in religious studies. Then write and SELF-publish a bunch of books on self improvement and religion. Always referring to themself as "Dr.". I can totally see Chode doing this, really pathetic IMO.
     


  2. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    Damning with faint praise!
    Satchie, my comment was intended as an offhand joke. I’m deeply sorry that it offended you.
     
  3. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    THIS!!
     
  4. SleuthD-o-doubleg

    SleuthD-o-doubleg Well-Known Member

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    Local update: MM and JA were not at the women’s detention center today
     
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  5. Shadow@light

    Shadow@light Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, for keeping us up to date Sleuth-odoubleg.
    Let me know if you need to boast me over the wall.
     
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  6. StarrChance

    StarrChance Well-Known Member

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    Pray tell !
     
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    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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  8. Tortoise

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    Exactly so. I think it's a revealing text exchange.

    I interpret their words to mean -

    1. Lori: It's a spear thru my heart = she actually had a love connection with the money.

    2. Lori: He left nothing for JJ!! = She did not truly believe Charles was possessed, Ned Schneider, or any other name they had for him.

    3. Chad: Wow. That's terrible. = Chad didn't believe Charles was a zombie either.

    4. Chad: I love you. = Chad wasn't motivated by the money, he was motivated by the sex.

    5. Chad: Yes, I'm thinking Kay as well. She is probably freaking out that you got those computers. = Chad misreads what Lori's written about Kay being the beneficiary and thinks Kay changed the beneficiary, and they'll be able to prove it with Charles's computer.
     
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  9. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    When I read Chad’s responses he sounds dumb. I mean really ignorant about life.
     
  10. shotgun09

    shotgun09 'Certified' Boomer

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    My definition of a sinking ship ( in a courtroom ) : ;)

    Mark Redwine's gross diaper pics

    Chad Daybell's soft porn novel
     
  11. Forever Young

    Forever Young Well-Known Member

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    A post I made yesterday was deleted for not providing a link for some statements I made as fact. I pulled the statements from my memory, hoping to jog some other memories. I did provide a source, though not a link.

    It made me go back and review the court documents that were obtained by WTAF in March through July of 2020 to make sure I was remembering correctly. My source is a 1771 page PDF and another link also from WTAF.

    These documents were legally obtained by WTAF and were discussed on Tricia's YouTube channel with Aimee, who was with WTAF at the time. I believe Tricia gave permission for their discussion here.

    The documents show an emerging and continuing pattern of manipulation and gaslighting of not just children, but everyone around Lori Vallow, that continued to escalate until the death of Joseph Ryan.

    How Lori deals with the courts is shown: constant gaslighting, blatant refusal to obey court orders, and having her lawyer citing inappropriate law to the court to delay, to the point that one lawyer asked to be withdrawn from the case. This was after attorney Edwin Terry started acting strange, then died.

    There is documentation of an attempt to find the guardian ad litems for Tylee incompetent and allegations that one was sick and dying. These are the same GALs who appeared on Dateline 10+ years after allegations were made.

    The original question was regarding how much Charles knew about what happened to Joseph Ryan.

    Charles is a murder victim, as was likely Joseph Ryan, (along with Tylee, JJ, and Tammy). I understand the sensitivity for all the victims, but feel that the truth should not be denied that CV had knowledge of much of what was going on with JR and participated in his harassment.

    Statements I made are sourced from these sites and pages:

    Unauthorized medication, unauthorized invasive procedure, provacative photo, video cameras installed:
    Charles Vallow: The Untold Story Part Two | WTAF

    1771 page pdf of court documents are here:
    Dropbox - WTAFvallowDocuments.pdf - Simplify your life

    For navigation purposes:

    page 65 of 1771 Lori's complaint against Joe
    pg 75 of 1771 Lori's affadavit
    pg 85 discharge and substitution of Lori's lawyer to Edwin Terry pg 100 substitution of John Hindera and discharge of Edwin Terry
    pg 169 death of Edwin Terry
    pg 172 petition to remove GAL
    pg 196-213 allegations that GAL is sick and dying
    page 282 of 1771 Tylee says, Yes, Colby and Charles
    615 of 1771 Charles avoids subpoena
    821 and 826 of 1771 two trucks stalk Joe Ryan at Kids Exchange
    pg 916 request for withdrawl from case by Lori's attorney John Hindera, states unable to effectively communicate with client
    pg 984 Joe Ryan email to Charles and Lori
    pg 1068 Charles assaulted lawyer's wife and threatens Cheryl Wheeler's husband
    pg 1082 and 1085 Mrs. Vallow reports on stepson/Mr. Vallow assaulted Ms. Hindera, his own lawyer's wife
    pg 1105 discharge of Hindera, replaced by Karl Hays
    pg 1332 Alex Cox taser incident at Kids Exchange
    pg 1333/1364/1372 Joe reports tailgating and assault incident
    pg 1440 -1441/1446/1617-1620 Joe's visitation terminated by Lori and Charles
    pg 1466 permanent injunction against Charles
    pg 1472 recommendation that Tylee be removed from home
    pg 1476 personal safety concern of visitation supervisor
     
  12. nyvictoria

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    I was just looking for these docs the other day. Thanks for the link.
     
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  13. Knox

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    I listened to Adam's call with the Chandler Detective yesterday. I was deeply disturbed by what he revealed about JC and SS's reaction to Charles' death. The interview those two did back in May 2020, was fake and unbelievable. But to hear JC was angry at Adam and thought he was trying to get Lori in trouble with the church and betrayed the family? That Charles deserved what he got? Lori isn't really doing anything wrong? I guess with the exception of murder, the apple didn't fall far from the tree. All the while still going to temple ...
     
  14. nhmemorymaker

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    thank you, thank you.......... your persistence is so appreciated. These are very important docs.
     
  15. nhmemorymaker

    nhmemorymaker Well-Known Member

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    ya know.... with more and more cases that are riddles with "evil".... I really think the word "family" is highly overrated............
     
  16. Ruminations

    Ruminations Eating ice cream.

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    Thank you for this.

    This case has oodles of themes; one is flawed, mortal humanity vs. immortal gods. (Lol, i just corrected that spelling from immoral gods, which works ,too!)

    Murder victims are humans. They don’t have to be perfect to deserve justice.

    For that matter, people who do bad things are not purely evil. Even if they have been victims, too, or had good actions or intentions doesn’t mean that they avoid consequences. But they are humans.
     
  17. Ruminations

    Ruminations Eating ice cream.

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    I think a lot of those Spring interviews were more about developing prosecution strategy. Finding out who was inclined to help justice progress, who would have to be strong armed for fulsome truthful testimony, and whether strong arming or discarding the witness is a better strategy.

    MOO and speculation
     
  18. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    I agree with one exception. I believe there are some humans who are purely evil (no redeeming qualities).
     
  19. Trebor5591

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    Wow this is a huge cache of material...however, what does it reveal? Previously I had viewed Charles V. with sympathy as a victim. Now, I don't know. MOO. Even Tylee, God rest her soul, seems not so innocent due her role supporting the coverup of the murder of Charles. MOO. I am struggling to piece it all together, Is everyone associated with this case, (excluding Tammy D. and the child JJ) tainted?
     
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  20. nhmemorymaker

    nhmemorymaker Well-Known Member

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    i concluded this about Lori long ago.

    regardless of the "good mother" comments. Just always felt it was an act. always.
     
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