Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #61

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  1. kyrarose

    kyrarose Well-Known Member

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    IMO, it doesn’t matter how many people believe in prophecy, it’s still crazy. It’s unverifiable. I would question anyone who performed any action “because god told them to.”
     


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    minazoe Well-Known Member

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    usually commands from god are schizophrenia..Im not saying it can't happen....but for the most part..
     
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    SleuthD-o-doubleg Well-Known Member

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    Local update: MM and JA are at the women’s detention center today
     
  4. MsJosie

    MsJosie Well-Known Member

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    With both lawyers at jail, indication is someone else is there too (LV). Moo
     
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    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    If that were the case, the majority of Idaho citizens would have to question the basis of their foundational belief system. That’s dangerous territory for the defense to consider walking into.
     
  6. 887sMtreme

    887sMtreme Well-Known Member

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    BBM

    Idaho doesn’t accept mental condition (including, but not limited to, insanity) as a defense, even in a capital case, so this point is moot.
     
  7. fred&edna

    fred&edna Well-Known Member

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    While watching a YT video the other night (one approved here at WS), I heard Chad's possibly having "death anxiety" being discussed (with regard to death penalty and/or life in prison). Explaining that Chad feared someone else having control over his death. And, I thought... who the heck doesn't have this fear?? I bring this up only because I've realized (after reading many articles, books and documents written by mental health professionals, watching several murder trials, and listening to loads of various true crime podcasts with different views)... psychologists and psychiatrists can have varying opinions. I dread to see what the trial/s for CD and LV will bring... they have become nearly sinister "stars". :mad: I have a feeling my listening, reading and watching of info of these two will be limited. Poor Tammy, JJ, and Tylee... and their families. :(

    Of course, jmo
     
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  8. shotgun09

    shotgun09 'Certified' Boomer

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    Something I have been recently thinking about, is the relentless and dogged determination of Kay. Without her per-suing and pushing, we would not be here. She must have had that 'gut-feeling', or her hinky meter was heading in the red/danger zone regarding LV. Kay more than likely sensed LV's revenge frame of mind through the phone, when talking to her and wishing to speak with JJ. Kay has been like a dog with a bone....she never let up. And, look what it has all uncovered!!
     
  9. mickey2942

    mickey2942 Well-Known Member

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    CD is having an "existential crisis" about the death penalty? Oh, this is the world's tiniest violin playing a song for him. NOT!

    I had a random, grim, inappropriate meme moment, RE: CD and LVD as "Jake and Elroy" in the Blues Brothers...."We are on a mission from God.".

    I hope that they both get convicted of the crimes they committed.
     
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  10. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, even experts speculate on yt. Nobody knows what Chad's frame of mind is these days. There's no inside scoop.
     
  11. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    https://twitter.com/ericgrossarth/status/1424799804555612160

    #UPDATE In the order signed by the judge, the appointment of Archibald comes as Lori Daybell cannot waive her right to death penalty qualified counsel because of her incompetency. Remember, she was committed to the IDHW in June.

    https://twitter.com/ericgrossarth/status/1424800230550081537

    Additionally, although the case against Lori si stayed "ongoing evidentiary issues," including her husband Chad #Daybell's "concern that DNA material may be entirely consumed" means she needs the death penalty qualified counsel now to protect her constitutional rights.

    https://twitter.com/ericgrossarth/status/1424801610996207627

    New documents: In a Friday order, Judge Steven Boyce says although Lori and Chad #Daybell have separate case numbers, the ongoing murder case has a joint jury trial for the time being. This still allows Chad to file motions while Lori's case is stayed for her competency issues.

     
  12. Colorado303

    Colorado303 Verified Insider Watts Case

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    Perhaps MM shares some of LV’s non-mainstream beliefs and opposing counsel is concerned that could create a conflict of interest.

    Just a hypothesis. MOO
     
  13. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    That would likely indicate that she is there then. Since the new guy came with Means, not just that Means was there to see another client.
     
  14. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    Isn't it ironic how all these murderers fear/ are against the Death Penalty, when they had no problem imposing it on their victims??? Casey Anthony was also anti-Death Penalty because she knew that she might face it herself.
     
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    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    BBM. What does that mean? Thanks for the explanations.
     
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  16. indicolite22

    indicolite22 Well-Known Member

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    Some time ago the prosecution declared their intent to do consumptive testing on some samples. Chad's attorney formally requested to have their side present in cases when sample size was too small to be divided for multiple independent tests. For the same reason Lori's representative likely needs to be present and MM probably didn't qualify. So because of those evidentiary issues she needs to be properly represented.
     
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  17. Jolynna

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    Bold by me.
     
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    08/09/2021 Motion

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    to Dismiss The Grand Jury Indictment

    So this shows up on Lori's and not Chad's. How can they request a motion to dismiss the indictment, when she hasn't even had her charges read to her yet?
     
  19. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Incompetent - you are not capable of assisting in your defense.

    Insane - you are not criminally liable for a crime you committed.

    My paraphrasing. JMO
     
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    She's got to be there..wonder how long Means will last..? Scott @ crimetalk in Rexburg . Maybe he will stop in and see the 3 of them.
     

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