Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #5

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  1. GoneGoldfishin'

    GoneGoldfishin' Well-Known Member

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    So Lori has stated Tylee is dead, Chad has stated Lori has no minor children, Lori has stated that Tylee ran off with JJ, friends have claimed she thought she should drive off a cliff and kill everyone at once, divorce paperwork claims she doesn't want anything further to do with the children, and Kay claims Lori said the above. And there are still people wondering why LE is concerned for the welfare of the children? That CPS has no right to investigate? That this is government overstepping? I just don't understand what is wrong with some people. (Please feel free to add to this list of concerning statements and or behavior). Moo.
     


  2. BigAl16

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    The world is going to end. In the last days "something, something, something." Insert anything that works for the something. If the world is going to end (whatever that might mean) except for those who have taken the proper precautions and are hiding in the right places then doing anything other than hiding in the right places makes no sense.

    Of course if this is the explanation I'd wonder why they bothered to get an attorney to represent them to the media. If they're convinced the end is really that imminent I'd also wonder why Chad doesn't have his kids and their families with him as well. If he tried to get them to come and they are as unconcerned as they appear to be, that doesn't make sense either.

    But to keep the going back and forth pattern going, expecting end of the world fantasies from people who are as deluded as Chad and Lori appear to be to hold up in a logical way is probably too much to ask.
     
  3. GoneGoldfishin'

    GoneGoldfishin' Well-Known Member

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    But you don't prove you are a fit and responsible, sane parent, by acting crazy, irresponsible, and irrational. She is actively demonstrating and proving their claims. Yet she does not realize that, because of her mental illness. Moo.
     
  4. BigAl16

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    This is about as good an explanation as I can imagine.
     
  5. TruthSeeker1212

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    KW knows what she is doing by using the word "cult". She knows the reaction it gets, as has been demonstrated on this forum. People immediately think the worst. As has been discussed on this forum, anyone with unusual beliefs could be considered a cult, but that doesn't mean they would kill someone. She also has some "facts" about Chad wrong in the above article. Per discussions on other forums, people have seen evidence that Chad was not excommunicated and per the Preparing a People website, Chad did not lead Preparing a People. If this is the cult that she is talking about, then maybe there isn't a cult at all.
     
  6. Alpha Bravo

    Alpha Bravo Cuff em' and Stuff em'

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    Possible that Kay and Larry made a comment that they would take Lori to court for rights or custody, perhaps a little threat thrown out while trying to get on the phone with the kids. (tho never developed into anything) Comment would have made Lori extremely paranoid, no doubt. They say Lori refused to let them talk after Charles' demise, I suppose the kids know the truth of what happened to Charles... and Chad/Lori afraid the kids will drop the dime eventually. The last time they DID talk (or facetime) August 2019 it's said it was "scripted" and I imagine Lori was hovering with a finger on the hang up button. Also, in the comments under the RADAR article, someone claims that Lori threw a big pool party the afternoon of Charles' demise... including loud music. Hadn't seen that before.
     
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  7. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Thanks, I've seen it. They did have a couple things I knew but I had not included because of the rules here (such as the names of the new spouses of Alex and Melani-- Now that their names are in MSM it will be in the next update I post). They cited Joseph Ryan's sister as a source for a couple facts they had that I had slightly different or didn't have and I have added those to my timeline as well. I did have a laugh seeing that the reporter's timeline says that Colby's exact date of birth is "unknown". Obviously the reporter didn't do all their own research to make this timeline, but that's OK. CR's DOB is easy to find for anyone who bothers to look. For any reporters reading here-- I KNOW CR's exact date of birth (and his original birth name too), but the rules of Websleuths prevent me from posting it. He is not one of the missing children and not a POI and he deserves SOME privacy IMO.

    Also, I won't be adding CR's DOB to the timeline I made even if a MSM source adds it (unless he is accused by police of helping Lori hide the children or some other crime). That's just my personal line I've chosen (not WS rules exactly) as I believe Colby and several other relatives in this case have been innocently caught up in this whole thing. I only put down dates of birth for the POIs and the missing kids. I try to put myself in relatives' shoes and think about how I would feel having the news or a message board share my DOB and birth name just because my siblings are missing and my mom is a POI. Colby is an adult with his own family and he doesn't have control over what Lori does. He begged for her to do the right thing in his video to her and I believe his emotion shown is genuine. There's not much else he could do if Lori is not in contact with him. MOO.
     
  8. Alpha Bravo

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    Hard to say who is the leader, but Lori is claiming she's a God, and going to lead 144,000 people out when Christ comes this summer, and people have died mysteriously and disappeared around her... sorry but that is a text book DANGEROUS CULT no matter if there are 2 or 20,000 followers of it. Surprised Chad would hang with her, but hey, she's cute too? #Bonus And yes, RADAR is wrong, they were "involved" in PaP not leaders of it. Some of those people and those in AVOW may still follow the Daybells tho, would like to see that vetted out by LEA and MSM.
     
  9. Gardener1850

    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    I have no idea why it would take that long. I've seen test results take months but usually only in cases where the victim was skeletal when found. I'm not sure what they are looking for. Perhaps they are running basic tox-screen tests first and anticipating that if the basic ones come back without clear results that more tests have to be run after that? If he was poisoned with something unusual or rare that they don't usually test for they may have to keep doing tests until they find it. I hope they conducted a search warrant on AC's home to recover all medications and chemicals that could have been used to poison him. But we have not heard anything about that... MOO.
     
  10. mykal.larson

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    ABSOLUTELY YES. The fact that they have NOT already done this is troubling. Really any type of church would do this. Clearly these people have claimed to be LDS, and if the church wants to separate themselves from these fringe beliefs, they haven't done anything at this point to actually do that in earnest.
     
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  11. Friday Fan

    Friday Fan Who is San Antonio Jane Doe, "Cantu"? (1990)

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    Toxicology. It can take months. (Ever wait for celebrity death results? Corey Haim, Brittany Murphy, Michael Jackson, Prince etc)
     
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    Did you listen to Chad’s podcasts on the Preparing a People? If those podcasts are so innocent why did Preparing a People pull them down? If there was nothing wrong with them, leave them up for everyone to listen to. I personally did listen to them and wish I had recorded them to play for everyone to hear. One of my first posts weeks ago on WS was about what I heard on that podcast. The one in January 2019 was Chad explaining his visions to everyone about what LITERALLY will happen in the end times (which he was predicting for the near future). The “cult” are the people who thought what Chad Daybell said was true and followed him. I don’t know how many people this actually was. Preparing a People didn’t have a problem with this message until the press release by the Rexburg Police.
     
  13. Considering

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    Some children with special needs qualify for ESY (extended school year) due to regression and recoupment issues. JJ could have been receiving tutoring, speech therapy, etc. or a combination of services. Any services would likely be provided at a school (thereby explaining JJ being taken to “school”) at a scheduled time on certain days. For example, every other Thursday from 10:00-10:45. ESY is not the same thing as traditional summer school.

    * Oops. Already elaborated on by mickey2932.
     
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  14. GoneGoldfishin'

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    But if its only due to toxicology (agree that can take months), why would his take 3 months, but TD only 2-3 weeks? Presumably they would be doing toxicology on both? Moo.
     
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    Idle musings - Is it possible to "grow" E-Coli bacteria at home and how would you "give it" to another person for serious fast harm/death ?.....moo
     
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    Well I guess if the kids had been there and were interviewed by LE it may have been a different story depending on what the kids said and how they appeared. MOO.
     
  18. Gardener1850

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    Since Lori's family would know that isn't true about Tylee dying in 2017, I have been assuming that was what Lori and Chad told his family and Tammy's family members. They wouldn't have anyway to know it was a lie until the kids were declared missing. I believe Tammy's family has been cooperating with police and hoping to find out what really happened to Tammy. MOO.
     
  19. FindingJoLee

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    I'm right there with the people wondering where the Cox family is. If my daughter and her children were missing for months, and if I knew/learned that her behavior had become erratic or her ideas were radical, I hope I'd be doing what the Vallow family members are doing. Unless I had some reason for laying low that was more compelling than my daughter and grandchildren going missing...and I can't imagine what that would be.
     
  20. ohhieliz

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    In the Erica Parsons case it was years where her adoptive parents were collecting her SS benefits when she had been deceased.
     
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