Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #26

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  1. JosefZ

    JosefZ Well-Known Member

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    I agree that chances are slim the kids are still alive, but It can’t hurt to stretch the imagination here. JMO.
     


  2. yawningreyhound

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    It has gambling now so if you were there before that started, you'll be... surprised.
     
  3. BitchieBlackmore

    BitchieBlackmore Highway Star

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    True. I guess it depends on where his autism falls on the spectrum, but in my experience working with kids on and OFF the spectrum, they are all capable of lying he might not talk much to people in general about his personal life, or Lori fed him the narrative she wanted him to say as the truth. We know he interacted with other people after Tylee was last seen and so far there are no reports of him saying anything about where she went or missing In general . I’m sure Lori knows what he will and will not do/ say and used that to her advantage. Maybe she even told Tylee a lie about where she was going in front of JJ. I just hope they are alive and can get away from all of these people!
     
  4. CSIDreamer

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    Problem being, they are making it worse by trying to make it better. Jmo
     
  5. jjenny

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    JJ believed his father wasn't dead but was instead traveling on business. And JJ was in the house at least in the beginning when his father was killed. Therefore I don't envision it would have been hard for Lori to convince him Tylee went somewhere (presumably college, since that what she was telling other people).
     
  6. CSIDreamer

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    Speaking of SS for the kids. I've been wondering if that stack of cash she had in Hawaii ("mostly 20s") was from her using Tylee's card to make ATM withdrawals. Jmo
     
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    JJ believed his father wasn't dead but was instead traveling on business. And JJ was in the house at least in the beginning when his father was killed. Therefore I don't envision it would have been hard for Lori to convince him Tylee went somewhere (presumably college, since that what she was telling other people).
     
  8. CSIDreamer

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    Speaking of SS for the kids. I've been wondering if that stack of cash she had in Hawaii ("mostly 20s") was from her using Tylee's card to make ATM withdrawals. Jmo
     
  9. janx

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    But 48,000 per year tax free with no job!
     
  10. Nosurprise

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    Sorry I should have said In my opinion..unfortunately, this case is crazy and when the defendant gets all the rights, and her and the pit bull attorney are sharing laughs like it's a party.. The judge says no strange looks in courtroom and she's acting like the demon in the exorcist..and her son is sitting there in pieces..WTF..Where are your children?.. aren't the children's rights important. Sorry stupid rant..the prosecutor should have addressed more things JMO
     
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    To be fair, I've seen a LOT of animosity directed towards Kay Woodcock, Colby and Brandon in public posts. They did not get a publicly owned special fenced in parking spot like Chad. He's a POI in a missing children's case. He shouldn't get special treatment to avoid the press. Hopefully, they are on a learning curve here. MOO
     
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    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    Speaking of SS for the kids. I've been wondering if that stack of cash she had in Hawaii ("mostly 20s") was from her using Tylee's card to make ATM withdrawals. Jmo
     
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    True story!!

    This, 100%!!
     
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    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    IIRC, that's how we first learned about funeral potatoes and got on that (off-topic) topic. A VI mentioned there was no church luncheon at Tammy's Idaho memorial. Just a brief service, and not very many people attended.
     
  16. GoneGoldfishin'

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    We've been saying this for months, and I am really hoping it will bring federal fraud charges, on top over everything else (plus a shutdown of her funds). Moo.
     
  17. CSIDreamer

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    I think it came from that first court hearing on Kauai.
     
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    I'm torn on this. Why would they give them special treatment? If the judge or anyone else in the court are preppers or supportive of Lori and Chad in some fashion, would they really do this? Pretty insignificant in the overall scheme of things. Doing this could be interpreted as favoritism (and obviously has been) without really helping Chad and Lori all that much. If you're really looking to give the a break why do this. Why not drop the bail to 100-200K instead? (I'll bet I know which C&L would prefer.)

    My theory is that this is a combination of two things with a posible third.

    First, it appears there is some concern regarding the safety of Lori and, possibly to a lesser degree, Chad. What causes them to think this and who they think might be an issue, I'm not sure. It could be any of the less stable members of any of the groups or associations C&L are associated with or people have theorized they are associated with who feel they are making them look bad. It could be some lone wolf with issues who is triggered by abusive parents. Law enforcement could have heard threats and have specific people in mind or just be concerned that a high profile case is more likely to attract a certain kind of person. The bullet proof vest Lori is said to have been wearing in court and I believe while traveling from Hawaii seem to support this idea. You can bet if something happened and they hadn't anticipated it and taken action there would be a ton of people saying they should have anticipated it. I'll also point out that among the people who live nearby the percentage of gun ownership is much higher than it would be in many random places in the country.

    Second, there may be a concern that having either of them having to run the gauntlet of press and protesters is going to be an issue that will backfire on the court or otherwise cause an issue.

    Third, Justin and others could say that it is favoring Nate since he's obviously been given the inside track and special access at times. Maybe this is their way of getting the court and LE to think about such things while not offending Nate by pointing that out.
     
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  19. StrangerThanFiction

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    EXCELLENT ideas!! Personally, I prefer to get my boxing gloves on and go a few rounds on a bag. The quandary now is how to find a nauseatingly, infuriating bright pink weighted bag in orange and white checkers....
     
  20. Mentalheadslap2018

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    Oh I hear you, also $192K less than what she was used to.
     
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