Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #34

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  1. GoneGoldfishin'

    GoneGoldfishin' Well-Known Member

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    That would be Tammy. Her autopsy report hasn't come back yet. Moo.
     
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    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    That's what I heard too. It made me wonder if it's possible Lori used Tammy's temple recommend to access the temple. Can any LDS folks clarify-- is there ID required when someone presents a temple recommend to enter the temple? For example, if they didn't know Tammy in the Mesa, AZ temple could Chad have given Lori Tammy's card to use? Or is that impossible/unlikely?
     
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    Was there any reason given as to why Chad couldn’t divorce Tammy?

    That makes him seem incredibly weak. I think that weakness would have to be clear to Lori, MG, etc. What kind of super prophet can’t manage a common divorce?

    I might be missing something, but I highly doubt Chad believed any of his stuff. He lied about the NDE and everything else down the line, I think.
     
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    Grixote Well-Known Member

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    Duplicate
     
  5. cb73

    cb73 Well-Known Member

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    Or it has and she's joined the ranks of "suspicious death" without them going public about it.
     
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    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I totally agree with that assessment of AxC death.
    I know the autopsy did not show anything sketchy, however, I believe he was given something , Untraceable that caused his death.
    I am not a conspiracy theorist but It just doesn't feel right that he died from natural causes.
    TD original DC said Natural causes and I bet it doesn't now.
    I just cant shake this feeling I have about AC death. He was a liability
     
  7. FindingJoLee

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    No, there is no photo ID required. You could conceivably steal someone else's recommend.
     
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  8. Sorelle19

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    That's it! For me the Cox family interviews were staged to create a false narrative that the kids are in "hiding" because they're in danger. Anyone watching this first-person narrative from MG now knows that there never was a motive for hiding them. But there was a motive for killing them, as clearly espoused by MG.

    It just doesn't get any clearer than this. It's heartbreaking, hard to accept, but also in a way, a relief to be able to let go of the false hope that the kids are alive. Now the goal is to find how Chad and AC worked together to get rid of them.
     
  9. FindingJoLee

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    To have three suspicious deaths in one family is one thing. To have three suspicious deaths in one family and a group of people very familiar with the case can't precisely say which three those were because there were so many others....bizarre.
     
  10. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Tammy Daybell or Charles Vallow -- probably the 3rd
     
  11. Nurse Gen

    Nurse Gen Well-Known Member

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    ITA my favorite theory on that is malachite. The stone, not malachite green. Powdered malachite is poisonous
     
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    It's super convenient to claim the kids are in hiding. They're not with Lori. They're not with Chad. They're not with Alex. They're not with Melani. They're not with the Cox family. They're not with the Daybell family. They're not with the Vallow family.

    "Kids are with Melanie" and "Kids are with Kay" didn't work out at all.

    "Kids are with nobody in particular nowhere in particular" is probably their best hope at this point.
     
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    Gardener1850 Timeline Guru (Still Remembering Cupcake)

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    Whoa! Thanks for answering. I wasn't expecting it to be that easy. :eek:
     
  14. Picklepuck

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    It states "One homicide" (Charles), "two attempted homicides" (Brandon and Tammy), "three suspicious deaths" (Alex, Joe and ?), "two missing/endangered juveniles" (JJ and Tylee).
    And....I just answered my own question after typing that out...3rd suspicious death is Tammy, just like you said, @CSIDreamer . Sorry, I am not thinking straight...have been very sick for the past week and a half, and my brain seems to not be working well because of it. I'm going back to bed. I am not cut out for this sleuthing stuff.
     
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    I took MG's statements about Lori and Chad as ironically sad. All the evil they did to gain what they wanted and in the end they lost everything. JMOO
     
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    It's okay. :) Feel better soon!
     
  17. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    BBM-- Yeppers-- He wouldn't have gotten the $430,000 Life insurance money
     
  18. CSIDreamer

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    IF Chad's little group knew much about the Old Testament, they would know that when you "prophesy" and it doesn't come true, well false prophets were put to death. Jmo
     
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    The article with part 2 says "Gibb visited Sept. 19 and remembers walking around the Brigham Young University-Idaho campus and indoor track with Lori and Chad, who were holding hands and kissing."

    "Gibb returned home to Arizona and spoke with Lori a few times. Lori told her about meeting Kay at the airport and leaving JJ with her. Gibb didn’t think anything of it until two days before Thanksgiving."

    Sept 19 was a Thursday. I don't see any other dates mentioned, but Frozen 2 came out November 22. Thanksgiving was on the 28th.
     
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    I am a little confused - if Chad & Tammy were residents in Rexburg they would have attended church there together. I thought CD had just moved there like Lori and that is why they had some perceived anonymity but if that was his home he would have been recognized easily within the community. Can someone please enlighten me?
     
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