MG, LV, and CD seem very immature to me, in addition to everything else. They remind me of teenagers or college age kids who go through a phase of playing with ouiji boards, tarot cards, are fascinated with witchcraft or zombis or vampires. Remember the Slenderman case, where the young girls believed that if they killed someone they could be with Slenderman? But they were what, 11 or 12? Those girls did turn out to be be extremely mentally unstable. But they were just kids. This group is what, in their 40s? They seem to have the mindset of teenagers.