Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #43

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  1. SleuthD-o-doubleg

    SleuthD-o-doubleg Well-Known Member

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    Uhm, idk that I read that right. But imo we do not believe that you can pray and some healthy person will be passed away. We believe that pray can be healing or can be a comfort. Again, I believe they manipulated and twisted the LDS religion to fit their desires and needs.

    All jmo moo
     
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  2. Forever Young

    Forever Young Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Someone else claims that they saw TD not being around for the tribulation period and confirmed with Chad that he was still seeing the same thing, according to her own statement on her You Tube channel.
     
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    sunflowerchick Well-Known Member

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    Religious people (not just the LDS) believe prayer heals the sick. Why wouldn't they also believe the opposite? Look at it this way, if one really believes that they are "chosen" to be with someone else or to leave their marriage, etc., wouldn't "God" make that happen?
     
  4. wenwe4

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    I really want to plaster their jail cell walls with huge color posters of Tylee, JJ, Charles, Alex, JR, Tammy and a great big huge poster of Oprah on the ceiling so they can look up and see her face each morning when they wake. Pipe in vocals of the kids and even AC's comedy stand up routine. Flood their senses with the reality of what they have destroyed for their own lust, greed, vengeance, etc
     
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    IIRC (and someone correct me if I'm wrong!), in that case, LE was able to access Kenzie's phone records right away because she was still on her parents' phone plan and they gave their permission
     
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    vislaw Verified Forensic Consultant

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    Thank you so much for this detailed information
     
  7. Webbie16

    Webbie16 Well-Known Member

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    This is AMAZING information- thank you!
     
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  8. TexieLouWho21

    TexieLouWho21 Well-Known Member

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    READ: Exhibit from Brandon Boudreaux's court filing | East Idaho News
    I was thinking of Chad and his womanizing. There is a reference to men and being sealed and marriages in the outline provided by IP.

    Under 1. Multiple Probations line E. Multiple sealing possible, but males can choose one true spouse or have many.
    This IMO is CD justification of his womanizing. He seems to love to have woman around. It seems to feed his ego. Make him feel powerful. I have read posts on here that he had groups of women around him. That there were men but more women at his meetings. It has been reported he had a woman in Mesa and he assaulted his author JR. He was hunting in my opinion. He was actively looking for women to groom and be under his spell. He tells them exactly what they want to hear. IMO He was never faithful and never will be.

    I have also been thinking about AxC death. I'm totally team not natural. That death was just so convenient. I'm stubborn and I will never change my mind. Even though there is compelling evidence to say otherwise. Please hear me out.

    In IP outline 7. Church of the Firstborn and the 144,000 down at the bottom line B. Priesthood Keys and Authority Bestowed on Women. Line i. Women may perform all the same blessings and ordinances as men.

    Now if LVD was a "goddess" (I just threw up a little) and she has all this power. AxC was a 100% believer. Could LVD have ordered AxC to kill himself? Since AxC did LVD's bidding, would he have killed himself?
    All of this in JMOO.
     
  9. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    IMO, Tylee was not alive in Sept when LVD had her phone and supposedly told mom and sis that she confiscated her phone so it couldn't be tracked.
    I do believe LVD did NOT want it to be tracked but not for the reasons she gave plus she had Tylees phone after she was murdered.
    JMO
     
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    i'm confused.
    The juice bar period was in the early 2010's... not in 2006.
    But you are referring to court documents in 2006, right?
     
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    Even if there were more followers with varying degrees of inside knowledge, I doubt they would be the ones using the burner phones and email addresses mentioned. If there was a larger conspiracy and someone more competent than Lori and Chad was involved, IMO they would have been better at covering their tracks.
     
  12. justbreathe

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    I’m sure it took some time for MG to sort out exactly what she was dealing with - s missing child, a police investigation, and requests to involve her in deception. But probably the best thing would have been for her to contact the police herself immediately after Chad called.
     
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  13. nhmemorymaker

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    What are the easiest ways to buy burner phones? Just any ol convenience store and walmarts... It's not like there may be some burner phone salesman out there who knows our people, right?
     
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    sbm
    Or he "knew" that his sins would be forgiven in this life so he was off to do more dirty work in the next. Honestly, I think this man died as a result of killing himself (ie: whether it was a chemical ingestion or by 'anxiety' of the reality of his own deeds)
    JMO
     
  15. Love Never Fails

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    Hi. In paragraph 8 and the last paragraph she referred to Tylee as Tyty. I had never seen or heard that anyone referred to Tylee that way so I took it that she misspelled her name. I’m sorry if that was some pet name for Tylee.

    I didn’t sense pain in her letter but that’s me. She and her mother made sure to trash CV and JJs grandmother and now that they have found their sister/daughter knew and likely planned the murders and never bothered telling the truth, she still won’t discuss that fact.

    You and I can agree to disagree.
     
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    We discussed this a few weeks back, when MG gave her first interview to East Idaho News. I felt the same way. She said at that time that when Chad asked her to lie to police, she immediately felt a pit in her stomach. THAT'S when she should have called police!
     
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    Someone else pointed that out to me. Thanks.
     
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  18. Kamyria

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    To me from beginning it sounded like a deliberate thing. And I think he got a kick out of the fact that he meant actual limbs while Tammy thought he meant tree branches.. like an insider joke.. ugh JMO MOO
     
  19. wenwe4

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    7-11, Walmart, any of the convenience stores. Even the kiosks that used to set up inside of those stores had options for that. I bought one in Europe and a pre-paid chip so I could call back home for much cheaper than using my own cell (at the time).
     
  20. DI_Isokawa

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    Here's a thought: each email address was associated with a pair of phones. The phones were to be used for a very small number of communications and then discarded for security. Like a "go" signal.

    Maybe this was in preparation for some kind of op not yet executed. What, or by whom we don't know. And here's a really wild thought: were the phones in those boxes Chad and Lori sent to Hawaii ahead of their December trip?
     
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