Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #44

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  1. Michael0808

    Michael0808 Well-Known Member

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    Night Sleuthers! Trying to kick the pup over to make some room in my bed. I laughed and cried a lot tonight. Chalk it up to being a newbie.
    Thank you for keeping me company whether you meant to or not.
    Stay safe!! Sleep well
     


  2. KonaHonu

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    I posted earlier about this. While I think Lori and Chad are guilty of first degree murder and qualified for the death penalty. I doubt it will be sought simply because, while Idaho has the death penalty, it has used it rarely and never on a woman. Idaho has executed 3 men since 1976 and 10 since statehood in 1890.

    Not to be disrespectful to anyone or to assume anything about a religion I only have a passing familiarity with, I think the same LDS "attitude" toward women that people have discussed also translates into a strong reluctance to execute women because they are not held to teh same accountability as men perhaps. I just don't think the state will seek the death penalty against Lori because I doubt any prosecutor wants to risk his case on convincing a jury to do something no jury has ever done in Idaho - execute a woman.

    Of course I could be wrong!
     
  3. indicolite22

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    Satellite Photo Shows Chad Daybell Property On Likely Day Of Child's Burial:

     
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    I'm a guy, but no offense taken. If anything happy that my posts do not reveal any gender chaunanism!
     
  5. fuzzybutter

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    60-80% of the population can smell the bitter almonds smell of cyanide
     
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    Because, he did not follow through. CV could have had a restraining order against LVD, he never did that. CV could have arranged with the court that he pick JJ up at his school or CPS office, to eliminate contact with LVD. CV never did anything, but continue to chase LVD.

    LVD steals $35,000. CD doesn't even report the theft to the police or press criminal charges.

    LVD goes to Hawaii, leaves CV with kids. CV takes her back.

    Not victim blaming, per se, but if CV really "feared for his life", he didn't really act like LVD was that much of a threat.
     
  7. fuzzybutter

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    Thanks for the Idaho death penalty history. It sounds like it is on the books but not used often. Unlike say Texas. It will be interesting to hear what the eventual charges will be. I understand your point about not wanting to execute a woman, but there is always a first time. It may depend how heinous the murders were and the fact that one was her bio kid and the other one was special needs.
     
  8. indicolite22

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    Obviously he still loved her (he told that to multiple people) and also believed that he could fix her. After returning from Hawaii she tricked him into believing that she was back to her normal self. According to Dateline he texted a friend "we have our Lori back". Of course it didn't last. She was only there to "fix" his finances.

    Charles was recorded telling a police officer about the stolen money. They put in the report that he was too focused on the monetary aspect. Lori was authorized on Charles' account so he couldn't do anything about the money transfer.
     
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    Idaho has one woman on death row.
    Row, Robin IDOC #40171
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    Received: December 1993
    Convicted of 1st degree murder for the arson deaths of her husband, son and daughter in Ada County.
     
  10. indicolite22

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    IMO Alex acted alone on Chad and Lori's orders. BB was just another zombie to him. Melani knew it was going to happen and had a part in it without being there. Perhaps she was going to pay Alex afterwards.
     
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    Creepy, delusional... Would make me run full speed opposite direction!
     
  12. GRT

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    I remember reading that somewhere, too. Lester Holt alluded to the fact that in a normal world, a woman like Lori wouldn't give someone like Chad the time of day, but Chad had found a way to manipulate gullible women, and Lori (and maybe the prior woman) were convinced he was some sort of prophet and he played on that weakness.

    JMOO, but I think you're correct. Chad wanted the power over life and death but he had no realistic way of carrying out his dark longings until Lori came along, and brought her hitman/brother with her.

    What a completely sick relationship. As MG said, they were "gasoline and fire," and when they merged, no one was safe. No wonder MG went into hiding when she began to understand they might actually be killing people.
     
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    True, and I wonder what "conspiracy to commit serial murder" will earn Chad.
     
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    CV seemed to think LVD was "all talk," even though her words were outrageous. And, he wanted his pretty wife back.

    He never considered Alex.
     
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    dixiegirl1035 I will do it, but I won't like it

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    Nate Eaton - Reporter

    "This morning in an interview with Nancy Grace I misspoke when I said Tylee Ryan was dismembered BEFORE she died. It is true that this beautiful teenage girl was dismembered, but court documents released thus far do not indicate when that happened. The interview was at 6:30 am and sleep has been hard to come by lately (Still - not an excuse). I didn’t even know I had said it until many of you reached out to me. I apologize for the confusion and misinformation! I will watch my words more carefully."

    I still don't care that he even is using the word dismembered as the body was burned, and ergo some parts may have separated due to fire. That is his interpretation/word due to two human bones being at the top and not connected. MOO

    Also, Nancy Grace's podcasts are not behind a paywall, so unsure why folks keep saying it is?
     
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    CV did consider Alex, based on the comments he made to some people. But I am guessing he didn't expect that Alex would be there when he came to pick up JJ.
     
  17. jjenny

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    Well, Lori was obsessed with his books even before he met him. Again, I don't think CD had to work very hard to pursue her. For whatever reason, CD's end of the world ideas really appealed to Lori.
     
  18. RickshawFan

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    You are doing very well with your ideas and right in there with the conversation. No newbie leeway seems to be needed.
     
  19. RickshawFan

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    "He" would definitely not be my type. BUT Correction! Let's be clear there's equal opportunity here. Guy, gal, whoever, creep-city.
     
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  20. indicolite22

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    Charles was aware of Alex's role:

    She also told Charles that she would kill him if he got in her way and that she had "an angel there to help her dispose of the body," court documents said.

    Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell religion: Missing Idaho kids mom in 'cult'?
     
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