Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #44

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  1. RickshawFan

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    Wow, you found the right group of boiling pots?
    I'm not convinced that photo (Photo B, shall we call it?) is in the same spot as the YNP photo. The relationship between AxC's head in Photo B to the far-ground hill doesn't seem to be what you'd get if you had someone standing in that corner, taken from the direction where the camera seems to be located. A different segment of the hill would show.
    However, the YNP photo might not be current. Every time I go to YNP those boiling pots have all changed, new ones have come to the surface, etc (fascinating), so I'll bet the boardwalks have to be newly constructed on a regular basis. The shading on the colorful rocks would be different from year to year, too. Photo B has what looks like an ivory-colored trail between Tylee's and AxC's heads, but that slack-S curve is not on the YNP photo, even in the rock coloring.
     
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    Sobbing now. I need to take a break and pull myself together.
     
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    Snipped for focus
    That's a VERY helpful article IMO, especially pp 2-5. I hadn't thought of the differences between strong faith-based imaginings and existential distortions of reality.
    I think we have to be careful about a diagnosis, though.

    And how do you get from religious delusions to a cult? Do all the members of the cult share the delusions? They are presumably in the cult because they are captivated by the delusions of the leader (that seems obvious in this case), but I don't think you can have a cult that is comprised of a gaggle of folks with pathological delusions. They wouldn't survive each other IMO.
    On second thoughts, the folks in the wider Zombie Gang might not have survived each other if LE hadn't intervened, but.....
    Anyway, the binary in this article may be very useful, but it might also have substantial limitations for this case.
     
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    OH! I didn't mean to upset you :( I was trying to comfort you. I've been through something similar and this is how I cope. You cannot spend your life questioning yourself, it will do more damage. ((Big hug))
     
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    I have the same question. We tend to appreciate discussions that lead us to trust, mistrust, integrity of some of the players, not just the POIs. The journalism world is giving Melanie a lot more credit than we are right now. And I think we have to do the same analysis of DW,, since he is becoming more active. He appears to be quite different in his earlier writings, than he is on Dateline now! And his publications are a way to see these differences;
     
  6. vislaw

    vislaw Verified Forensic Consultant

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    I'm certain these photos were taken at this location. I've matched many features that confirm this. For instance, see below:
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    The relationship between the ridge line, creek and wooden railing establish this was, indeed, where the photo was taken.
     
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    This has been my theory since day one. Who knows? BUT I just cannot believe that these folks would have taken any chances to have blood, and body parts in a newly RENTED apartment.... all they needed was one complaint from a neighbor.

    What do I know? This is nothing more than a hunch... but it is just one of those "itches" that I cannot scratch enough for any satisfaction.
     
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    and the bat.
     
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    I think she recognized your sympathy and needed the tears. Your compassion was kind. Bet she feels that also. Hugs all around. Tough case, so tough...
     
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    I am sorry, but how exactly would she end up buried in Chad's backyard if she was handed off to someone at Yellowstone? No way, no how.
     
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    6/24/20 Lori Vallow's Life Behind Bars - Court TV

    Insight into Lori’s cell, privileges and upcoming birthday tomorrow. Will be 47 yrs old.She can access the shower anytime....can exercise for 1 hr a day....has no roommate.Three meals a day. Has never been on suicide watch. She can use a tablet anytime located in her “pod” to Telmate (zoom) with a visitor(has to be scheduled & approved )of course is recorded ...except convo with lawyer or clergy.
     
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    My iPhone has that option. I don’t like using it though jmo
     
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    Sobbing now. I need to take a break and pull myself together.
    You didn't upset me. Your kindness is much needed - along with some sleep. Sorry you've had to go through similar.
     
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    I personally haven’t had a conversation like this and neither has my husband. I believe some people do though.
     
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    I question that a little bit because no one was looking for the children until Kay notified authorities in November. Before that, MG had no reason to defend LVD or CD, aside from maybe defending their quickie marriage.

    But MG was the one who went to the police after CD and LVD asked her to lie, and after that, by her own account, she went into hiding, so I doubt (JMOO) there were any more podcasts, and she remained in hiding until CD was arrested, out of fear of him I'm guessing.

    I just have to wonder if anyone from that tight-knit group is still around that could take revenge on MG?
     
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    wow, Dreamer.... that says it so clearly....
    I have never been on an interactive site like this, so this is my first experience with this case, and this type of communication except FB blabbing. Still learning so much...even though I clench my teeth wanting to discuss many things we are not allowed to discuss.
     
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    It’s frustrating to watch people not take accountability. I fully believe Chad knew what he was doing. It might have started innocently but morphed into this monster that consumed all who participated and some innocent bystanders.

    I don’t think Chad was always a bad person but I do think there was something major that changed the way he viewed good and evil and right from wrong.

    All jmo
     
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    Thank you for sharing, the possibility of a therapist connection is very interesting. I did run across a comment on the internet, that said something interesting about her professionally. This puts him in a different light for me, time will tell. The problem is, we may never know the complete truth because he is going to be the legal scapegoat for everything.
     
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    I could barely get through watching that interview because Ashleigh B. is obnoxious... but great info! I wonder how bad the food is? Ugh, probably inedible.
     
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    I agree we may never know the complete truth. 100% agree all blame will be place on Alex, whether true or not.
     
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